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Особенности проявления изначальной формы и различных экспансий Кришны

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Кришна во Вриндаване и Кришна в Двараке — одна личность или разные проявления?

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0:40дорожка перевода · текст английскийout Kirtanamur hai k outro band dia you can do el

0:48morning kirtanamam

0:50So, the question is

0:57The question is

0:58Kirtania, is Krishna the son of Nandamharaja, and Krishna the son of Vasudeva and Dwarf is the same person?

1:05Кришна, Нанда-Нандае, у вас есть тур, и Васудева, как д аккаунты лардж намараджжана, Нандамахараджа

1:12дорожка перевода · текст английскийand the ba- prayer is true

1:17Vrindavan, shi kriksha dasanavnanda-maharaja in Vraja, shi kriksha dasanavnanda-maharaja in Vraja, anan-yopakshi-yatrubam svayamrupa su-guchatehi. He is the svayamrupa, the original form of shi kriksha.

1:31Он svayamrupa, the original form of shi kriksha. He is a killer asamrita-murti, the embodiment of all races. Он a killer asamrita-murti, the embodiment of all races. He is independent in his aishwarya, his powers and his sweetness.

1:58hek achitana.

1:58Whatever power, Aishwarya, and whatever sweetness is there in any other form of Krishna, it is come from Krishna.

2:19So Advaitamachutamanaadimanattarupam, see kristians have many forms but they are Advait, they are

2:23дорожка перевода · текст английскийfrom the perspective of Tattva, but they show different degrees of Aishwarya and Madhuri, just like the moon is one, but we say, oh, this is the new moon, this is the half moon, this is the full moon, it has different names and other names,

2:53It appears differently depending on how much effulgence the moon is showing.

3:04дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, Svayamrupa is the Krishna in Vrindavan.

3:10When Svayamrupa expands, that is called Svayamrakash.

3:13When Swamrupa projili expansi, ito называется Swamprakash.

3:16If that expansion is exactly like the original one in complexion and in form, in mood, in complexion and in mood, then that form is called the Prabhava-Prakash.

3:35Prabhava-Prakash — это та форма Кришны, которая имеет то же настроение и тот же цвет тела, что и Swamrupa, что и изначальная форма Кришны.

3:45So, that is one form of Swam Prakash, Prabhava Prakash, just as Krishna was dancing with all the gopis in Rasa-lila, so the form in the middle standing with Radharani, Swam Rupa, and his form which has the same mood and complexion dancing with each gopi is a Prabhava Prakash.

4:24So, but if Krishna will expand himself, and his form or his mood is different, then that is called the Vaibhav-Prakash.

4:45Кришта, Кришта в Вриндаване, имеет форму пастушка, и настроение, я гопа, и его форма в Матхуре и Двараке, как сын Васудевы, он имеет форму кшатрия, кшатрия. And his mood is, I am the son of the Basudeva and Devaki. I am a katriya, not a gopi. If his form is a human like two-handed, it is vaibha-prakash. But if he has four arms, it is vaibha-prakash.

5:34vlasa, no, a 4-hruka forma, уже называется Vajbabvilas.

5:40So, generally, Krishna will play in the two-handed form in Dvaka and Natura, but sometimes, as the past time, when it is required, he'll manifest four arms also.

5:51Как правило, в Madhukuri-Yitvari Krishna являет свою двухрукую форму, но, если ситуации Lila того требует, то он проявляет четырехрукую форму.

6:00So, Krishna, Nyo, Yadu, Sangu, To, Na, Po, Na, Stok, Sosthapra, Vrindavanam, Parcadhyam, Paramekam, Nagacati, there is, in Srila Rupa Goswami, he was writing a drama of Krishna's lila in Vrindavan, and then how he leaves and goes to Mathura and then to Dwaraka, but Satyabhama came to him in a dream and said, write a separate drama about me, so he separated his two dramas and made one drama, Vidakta Madhav in Vrindavan, and one drama, it starts in Vrindavan,

6:40It's mainly past times in Durka, that is Lalitmada.

7:16дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo Sri Rupa Goswami received this instruction in a dream from Satya Bama. But he did not separate his drama yet. But he did not separate his drama yet. When he arrived in Jaganaspuri, even without saying or discussing anything, Mahapu said, Krishna, Nyo, Yama, Yama, Yama, Yama, Yama, Yama,

7:38No.

7:48That Krishna, who is in the Yadu dynasty, and that Krishna in Vrindavan is not the same.

8:03Because Krishna never leaves Vrindavan.

8:07So, when Rupa Goswami heard these words of Mahaprabhu, then he realized, oh, he's confirming the dream that I had, and the instructions of Sakti Bhama in the dream.

8:31So, you should know that in the spiritual world, Sikriksha in his original form is always playing in Vrindavan, At the same time, Krishna in his Vaivav-prakash form is playing in Mathura, and at the same time another form as Dvaka is Krishna, his Vaivav-prakash form is playing in Dvaka, so in the three dharmas at the same time Krishna is playing.

9:11дорожка перевода · текст английскийkirtan, kirtan, edaz, mayrola, la. So it is in a time of the time.

9:17So the original form is Svayama-ruba and Vaibak-prakash in the other dorms.

9:22дорожка перевода · текст английскийIn a time of the Vrindavan, and Vaibak-prakasha is already in the other dorms.

9:33We have similar form and Vaibak-prakasha. However, when Krishna's vila manifest in this world, there is a gaman-agaman that is coming and going, So that Krishna who's playing in Vrindavan, he goes to Mathura and to Dvarka and then comes back to Vrindavan. Otherwise, if it was not the Vrindavan Krishna, then why would he, after overcoming many obstacles, go back to Vrindavan?

10:06Why would he feel separation? Why would he be crying and telling Udhav, Gakshutdhava, Vrindavan, Petrana, Pratimavaha, Udhav, go to bread?

10:40дорожка перевода · текст английскийsabalda, 내�フ Course alayama. co Bucare, Raza, obxatana, abhajuri, 快apolla, kata, siksha, kaho hatten, habụ as chaitanya hangi vaj

11:07So, it's understood that in this world, actually, original Krishna, he goes on the chariot with Akrura to Mathura, and then afterwards he goes to Dvarka, and he's feeling so much separation from Vraja-gopis.

11:31I reciprocate with everyone. Therefore, because the Mathurabhasis and the Dwarakabhasis are not qualified by Vrasa, Paradevava, to interact with Vrindavan Krishna, they only see his Vaibhav Prakash and interact with his Vaibhav Prakash.

11:55Несмотря на то, что в своих прокатлилах Шикришна приходит в этот мир, и проявляется лила того, как Акрура приходит из Матхуры и забирает его с собой, и как сильнейшую боль разлуки Шикришна испытывается своими брадья-баси, после Матхуры он отправляется в Двараку, и мы знаем, что Шикришна говорит,

12:14
ye yathā māṁ prapadyante
tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham
mama vartmānuvartante
manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ
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As all surrender unto Me, I reward them accordingly. Everyone follows My path in all respects, O son of Pṛthā.
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jaya, dhamam, prabhadi, nte, tam satayava, bhajami, hamp, что я отвечаю взаимностью согласно настроению каждого.

12:21Из-за того, что Madhura Bhatia, Parhka Bhatia, они не квалифицированы узреть даршан Vrindavan,ского, Krishna, поэтому Krishna отвечает им взаимностью, являя свой Байбах Пракаши, эту форму свою.

12:33We are accustomed to thinking about things objectively. Here is object, I am seeing it, you are seeing it, we are all seeing it the same.

12:40Предмет, мы смотрим на вещи. Так вот стоит поставка, вы её видите, я её вижу.

12:44But though, see, Krishna is not the product of our mind, he is objectively real, but still, everyone, Krishna, is a cintāmaṇi, and he shows, whatever face is perfect to reciprocate with your mood.

13:11So, he fulfills all desires of his devotion, such as cintāmaṇi.

13:19Otherwise, Mahaprabhu gave the example, he was like Vaidūrya-maṇi.

13:25The cat's eye stone.

13:29It depends on which angle you look at it. From one direction it seems to be blue, another direction seems to be yellow.

13:39So Krishna is one, but if you see him in the mood of Madhurya, then he looks blue, and if you see him in the mood of Audhurya, then he looks yellow.

14:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, because the residents of Mathura and Dvarka, they have some Aishwarya, they have some Aishwarya, so they are qualified to see and reciprocate with the Vaivar Prakash of Madhura.

14:20дорожка перевода · текст английскийto try to talk to the discussion.

14:33And when I say, then why is it said, if there's gamanāgaman coming and going,

14:38
Vrindavan prideja parana kama naga chiti.
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14:51дорожка перевода · текст английскийKrishna doesn't leave Vrindavan, Krishna doesn't leave Vrindavan, because in the spiritual world he never leaves, and in this world, when he has the pastime of leaving, he's still there in aprakat form, so he never leaves, because he's still there eternally and his unmanifest lila is going on.

15:20дорожка перевода · текст английскийvrindavan, ostaçaoza, tako, ono nikada evo ne pukidai.

15:24
Mathura yatra bhagavan sadā sannihito hariḥ, it's that place Mathura-mandala, Braja-mandala, is a place where Hari is residing forever. Это место, Brajmandhala, Mathuramadhala, то место, где Hari пребывает во веки веков. Nityam sannihito hariḥ, so everyone should come to Braja-mandala, prajmamadhala.
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15:46Вы все должны приехать на Brajmandhala, Prakraman.

15:49Because Krishna is living there forever.

15:51Потому что Кришна там всегда живет, никогда не покидает это место. Не думайте, что Кришна есть вибу, он все пронизывающий, он все пронизывающий, зачем мне какой-то явод. Потому что у святой дамы есть своя ачинти-шакти, непостижимая энергия.

16:12Поэтому не надо пытаться как-то вот...

16:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийmeyete anayya itimaya. Meyete anayya itimaya. Meyete anayya itimaya.

16:18Если вы, с точки зрения логики, пытаетесь рассуждать о трансцендентных реалиях, то вы пребываете в мае.

16:25дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo in this way we should see, that from the point of view of tattva,

16:29Krishna in Vrindavan is Bhagavan, Krishna in Dvarka is Bhagavan. But from the point of view of rasa, there is some vicisth speciality between them.

16:38Поэтому, с точки зрения таддва, да, это один и тот же Кришна, который пребывает во Вриндаване и в других дамах, но с точки зрения расы есть определенные вайшиште, есть определенные особенности у той или иной формы Кришны, его настроения. Эту трансцендентную реальность вы не можете штурмовать потоком своих материальных мыслей.

17:07What is the current of material thoughts called?

17:09Как называется поток материальных мыслей?

17:11Akalienamaya Cintashrot, yes. Akalienamaya Cintashrot.

17:15дорожка перевода · текст английскийAkalienamaya Cintashrot.

17:16So this akalienamaya Cintashrot, the current, inauspicious current of the mental plane, you can't find the divine reality by that.

17:37дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd then how will they have access to that reality? Through Harinam. Because Abhinathva, Nama Namino, Krishna is Swaya Namatva. He himself is his name, Swaya Rupa Tva.

18:01Svayamrupata, Svayamrupata, his form is him, and his name is his form, Svayamgunatwa, his name is his quality, and Svayamlilatwa, the name has the characteristic of directly being Krishna's Lila also.

18:24So everything will come from the holy name, when we are empowered to chant the holy name on the order of guru.

18:41What type of tattva is guru?

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18:46Se worst.

18:48дорожка перевода · текст английскийKh echoes are thumbnail What isStart , pulls it?

18:59Violet is written

19:01Ashraya Jatiya Tattva

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19:06God Is God I

19:15дорожка перевода · текст английскийWho is the importance of service to God? What are the nomenclature is there for the Guru Tattva? What are the nomenclature is there for the Guru Tattva? From the first class. Try to remember the ancient history.

19:41Drushab visa province, Radha waarinata gu bathує ennida Y couple of Pesci kem, wild ennida

19:57Abhinaprakash, it is one of the non-life manifestation of Radhika in the form of Guru Rupa saki.

20:05дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf a person does not take complete shelter of the holy name, then they will have four faults, what are the four faults?

20:24Yes, Malini.

20:35The holy name is Purnahashudho nityamukto. Complete, pure, eternal, and liberated. So if a person does not take shelter of the holy name, they have the defect of apurnata, they are not complete.

20:58дорожка перевода · текст английскийbecause they are not united with the complete reality because they are not united with the complete reality. They have the fault of Aunitata, impurity, because they are not united with the pure personalities. They have the fault of Aunitata, their consciousness is absorbing the temporary things. And they have the defect of Shinkalvada, which has a defect of Shinkalvada.

21:30дорожка перевода · текст английскийparaka, rarely wait the eternal거 taxes on itself, because they have not been assimilated into reality of that supreme truth Hnadenam who is Mukta, who is a Mukta.

21:50I am just testing who is paying attention.

21:53Проверяю, кто обращал внимания, запоминал.

21:56Don't hear Harikatha in this year and then let it go out from that.

22:00Не надо вот так слушать Harikatha, что в одно ухо влетело и из другого вылетело.

22:04It has to go in and then down and into that.

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22:07Harikatha должна зайти к вам в уши и проникнуть в ваше сердце и остаться там навеки вечные.