0:25Девтьюки, Уддхава говорит, что ядовы видели не только единого Всевышнего, который пребывает повсюду, но в стихе Шримад-Бхагаватам, 10.84.23, мудрецы в Наймишаранье сказали, что даже Вришни, которые наслаждаются близкими отношениями с тобой, не знают, что ты душа всего сущего, верховный повелитель, так как же ядовы видели Кришну?
0:52In Srimad Bhagavatam, in 3rd canto, we were saying that Yadavas were seeing Krishna as the personality who is present everywhere, and in Srimad Bhagavatam, on the contrary, in 10th canto, 84-23, the sages of Naimisharanya, they are saying that even Rishis, Kurukshetra, sorry, they say that even Vrishnis, they don't know that you are the soul of everyone. How could Yadavas see Krishna?
1:30In Dvarka, all the associates there don't have the same level.
1:35дорожка перевода · текст английскийIn Dvarka, all the associates there don't have the same level.
1:41So, some of the associates there, they're always aware that Krishna is Bhagavan.
1:52And they have a mood of the dasa, I am Krishna's servant.
2:03дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut some of the yadavas who are very close to Krishna, their mood of service, it may be mixed with some friendship.
2:18be mixed with some parental love. Sometimes. You can see the example of Vasudeva and Devaki, when they were in Mathura, after Krishna killed Kamsa Maharaja, then they were standing with folded hands and thinking, oh, Krishna is Supreme Lord.
2:44And when Krishna and Balarama came and gave a basis to them, they were very in feeling in a very awkward situation.
2:50дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd when Krishna and Balarama came and gave a very awkward situation, but because Krishna, he wanted to experience some parental love from them, then Yogamaya covered them and then they took Krishna, Vasudeva and Devaki took Krishna and Balarama in their laps and embraced them.
3:24So don't think that the residents of Dwaraka and the residents of Mathura, that they are homogeneous, that they all have the same mood, there are some who have a more opulent experience, sovereigns all the time and there are others whose opulence is also sometimes eclipsed by some sweetness and other moods.
3:46Поэтому не надо думать, что спутники Кришны в Двараке и в Матхуре они представляют собой такое единое, гомогенное настроение, безличное, но мы должны понимать, что временами некоторые из спутников Кришны в Двараке и в Матхуре они преисполнены в большей степени настроении айшварьи, такого благоговения перед Кришной, но временами
4:06дорожка перевода · текст английскийMadhurya, who can experience a agreeable feeling of sweetness in Madhurya, that matches with that Aishvarya.
4:13Even we can say that Balaram, when Balaram is in Vraja, his basic mood towards Krishna is friendship.
4:22дорожка перевода · текст английскийSometimes the Vatsalya mood comes, parental mood because he is the older brother,
4:34and sometimes Dasya comes.
4:36No, временами ватсалья-раса, према-айшварья, настроение сакхья-расы, т.е. временами, как обычно, чувства по отношению к Шри Кришне, а временами он преисполнен настроения дасья, слуги Шри Кришны.
4:49Understand? So, Sakhya is prominent, but now and then, Vatsalya or Dasya will come. But the same person, or rather, his expansion, Sankarshana, in Mathura and Dvarka, Because Krishna manifests his opulences in Mathura and Dvaraka, Balarama's basic mood towards Krishna there is actually Dasya, and sometimes Sakhya, and sometimes Vatsalya will come, depending on the context of the lila.
5:15So same three moods, but the basis is different, whether Balarama is in Vrindavan or whether he is in Mathura or Dvaraka.
5:31Vrindavan, vrindavan, vrindavan, vrindavan, доминирующего настроения, сакхья-раса, которая временами сменяется волнами ватсалья-расы, родительской любви или дасья-расы, настроения служения Шри Кришне, но тот же самый Баларама в своем проявлении Санкаршана, когда он пребывает в Матхуре, то из-за того, что сам Шри Кришна являет больше настроения айшварья-расы там, поэтому и отношение этого Санкаршана, проявления Баларамы Прабху, является
6:03So, you should think that if there's sometimes some contradictory statement, then it depends on which Yadavas you are discussing and also what is the context, because different moods will appear in different Lilas.
6:19И так, когда мы обсуждаем с вами разные проявления лил Шри Кришны, нужно смотреть, если мы говорим о ядавах, что именно за ядавы, каково их настроение? Потому что зависит от лил Шри Кришны, зависит от контекста, чувство преданности будет меняться.
6:43Another question?
6:44дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnother question.
6:45Махарадж Парикшит, когда слушал Шукадеву Госвами, он спросил, почему женщины Враджа любят своих детей меньше, чем Кришну, это же противоестественно, на что Шукадева Госвами ему отвечал, что самость гопи, она связана с Кришной, как одно целое с Кришной, самость.
7:26When Maharaj Parikshita was speaking with Sukadeva Goswami, then Maharaj Parikshita, he asked Sukadeva Goswami why the women of Vraja, they love Sri Krishna more than their own kids, because?
7:44Maharaj Parikshita is not speaking with Suta Goswami.
7:50Да, маленькая правочка, Махарадж Парикшит с Шукадевой Госвами разговаривал.
7:56дорожка перевода · текст английскийWe are Sukadev Goswami.
7:59Śukadeva Gosvāmī, vaimeli vidu.
8:04Точнее, Шукадева Госвами.
8:08He was talking to him.
8:11Точнее, Шукадева Госвами.
8:13Sukadev Goswami, speaking with Shaunaka Rishi.
8:16Шукадева Госвами разговаривал с Шонакой Риши.
8:18Parikshit Maharaj is speaking with... Yeah, okay, what's the question? So the question is that the women of Vraja, they naturally, they have more love for Krishna than for their own kids, and Sukadev Goswami, he is saying that this is the nature of the Vraja-gopis prema to Krishna, and that's why it covers this point that they can have a lot of love.
8:51More love for Krishna rather than for their own kids, but then what is the nature of this identity? Because she is saying the word, like kind of identical, yes, like some ironesses there, but I feel that we are totally united. What is the nature of this? This is a very profound question. Amazing question. Without studying Srila Jiva Goswami's Priti Sandarbha, it's very difficult to answer the question.
9:27дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd without studying Priti Sandarbha, Srila Jiva Goswami, it's very difficult to answer the question.
9:34Because there he explains the nature of priti, love for Krishna.
9:40дорожка перевода · текст английскийBecause there he explains the nature of priti, love for Krishna.
9:43First of all, from a metaphysical point of view.
9:47Прежде всего, с метафизической точки зрения.
9:50Shukadeva Goswami replied:
9:52Shukadeva Goswami ответил:
10:00You should know that anyone is dear to you because the body is dear to you and their relationship with your body.
10:06Прежде всего, следует знать, что кто-либо дорог нам, потому что нам дорога та душа, которая живет в теле этого человека.
10:13Your body is dear to you, because your soul is identifying with it.
10:18Тело дорого нам, потому что в нем обитает душа.
10:21And your soul is dear to you, because the soul of your soul is there, Krishna.
10:27И наша собственная душа дорога нам, поскольку рядом с ней всегда пребывает Верховная Душа, Шри Кришна.
10:34So, Shukadeva Goswami is giving the conclusion,
10:43It is natural for everyone to love Sri Krishna because he is the soul of your soul.
10:51дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd so, Shukadeva Goswami explains, that it is very natural to love Sri Krishna, because he is the soul of your soul. You are a soul, you are a soul, you are a soul.
11:03But you are not the soul of your soul, and you are not the soul of your soul, understand?
11:12So, the love which is directly between the living entities is not natural.
11:23But the soul of our soul is Sri Krishna.
11:29So, the love that we have for Sri Krishna is natural, And the love which we have for the other living entities, that is in proportion to how much they love Krishna, that means they will stimulate our love for Krishna. And so we love them because they stimulate our love for Krishna in proportion to how much they love Krishna.
11:48And that is natural also.
12:02дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd we see that these couple of persons love Sri Krishna. We are at the same time to Caitanya, when they love Krishna more, we pay much more love.
12:10Now, this is the metaphysical point of view.
12:14дорожка перевода · текст английскийThis is the metaphysical point of view.
12:15But the Vraja-vasis, they don't want to know metaphysical issues so much.
12:20дорожка перевода · текст английскийThe Vraja-vasis, they don't want to know metaphysical issues so much.
12:25And even if they do, they don't apply them to Krishna.
12:27дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf they will think metaphysically, they might think, yes, Lord Narayana is the soul of the soul, but not Krishna.
12:45So then, because they have the laukika abhimana, like laukika sambandha, natural relationship, like people of this world.
13:05So, generally, they have the idea, I am my body, which for them happens to be true, because their bodies are spiritual. For them, there's no difference between soul and body.
13:24So, because they think I am this body, then you will think that their own children, that they will love their own children more than they love Krishna.
13:43And that they will have the abhimana, the self-identity, this is my son, this is not my son.
13:52But this is why this pastime is there in Srimad Bhagavatam, to give this special teaching.
13:58дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat is, the abhimāna of the devotee is not produced by himself, but rather it arises depending on which guṇa, which qualities of Krishna, the devotee experiences of Krishna.
14:42дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's a very big subject, and I think perhaps on another day we can just give
14:50a class on this subject for a few days.
14:57But just now, the idea is this, that Krishna has two types of qualities.
15:08One type of quality gives the saṃskāra.
15:15Saṃskāra. It purifies the heart and enables one to experience higher and higher levels of love.
15:23дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt purifies the heart and enables one to experience higher and higher levels of love. And the other type of the quality of Krishna awakens your abhimāna.
15:40So, when the devotee realizes the very childlike and helpless qualities of young Krishna
15:49дорожка перевода · текст английскийThen that awakens the abhimāna, you are my son.
16:01Even though they know he is not my son But the abhimāna is born by the experience of the childlike qualities.
16:20This is why one siddha-deha and siddha-abhimāna, all of these, they will not come until after we realize Krishna's form and qualities, because it's the qualities of Krishna that cause the awakening of the abhimāna.
16:33дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd so that we cannot understand our own siddha-deha, our own abhimāna, our own spiritual body, our mood, our relationship to Shri Krishna, until we understand our own form and the quality of Shri Krishna, because the quality of Shri Krishna is a certain mood, our own abhimāna.
16:54So amazing.
16:55It's amazing.
17:12And everyone is fasting today to get the mercy of Lord Nṛsiṃha-deva.
17:19дорожка перевода · текст английскийDon't think, I am a devotee of Radha Krishna, I don't need the mercy of Lord Nṛsiṃha-deva.
17:28We very much need the mercy of Lord Nṛsiṃha-deva. And by His mercy, all anarthas can be removed, so, and He can bless us that we become qualified to serve Radha and Krishna.
17:40По Его милости мы можем избавиться от всего неблагоприятного, от всех anarthas, и обрести лотосные стопы Радхи и Кришны.
17:47Go, Prema, Dande!
