0:10The essence is to chant carefully. So my question is, it's kind of a long question. Do you feel it's about careful chanting and hearing Hare Krishna, or carefully chanting and remembering Hare Krishna, or hardly chanting, hearing and remembering Hare Krishna? Yes, it depends on your stage. In the beginning, you have to chant and hear, to clean the heart. When the heart is clean, then automatically Krishna's form will start to appear in the heart, Because he's not different from his name And now you're remembering I understand So chanting and remembering should go together But you should not try to remember independently But that remembering should be kirtan-adi It should be a result of the chanting in here
0:52Yeah, it should be rising from the chanting in here Literally So the first step of the But it said By the power of kirtan you will attain smarana By the power of kirtan and smarana By the power of kirtan you will experience smarana It will automatically rise and then you should do the two together. Wow. And then so in the later stage, when it comes naturally to remember, then chant here and remember here. Yes. Yes. But in the beginning to be humble and chant to hear. Because you have to be purified. Right. You can't remember Krishna with the impure heart. Without hearing. Yes. So the sound has to clear the heart first and when it's clear then Krishna cannot be there. Would you say it's mandatory to carefully chant and hear at the beginning stage, the mantra, chant and hear the mantra?
2:08and he kind of said it in that process, so it goes, that's really good advice, thanks, and I had another question, um, you know, I hear Vishnu is in the heart, he's Paramatma, is it the four-armed form of Vishnu, he has four arms, is he the god in our heart, he has four arms, do you know what color he is, same color like Krishna blue, is it light blue or dark blue, it's not any blue of this world, okay, but is it for dark or light blue?
2:38It's dark, but it's shining. So it's like light and dark at the same time. Wow. And it's Vishnu. So Krishna is in our heart as Paramatma is Vishnu. That's right. But that's for everyone. Vishnu is in the heart of everyone. But when you accept God as, let's say, you want to serve Him in the form of Krishna, then it's no longer Paramatma, Mahatma becomes Krishna.
2:59So I should meditate on Krishna being in our heart. Yeah, don't forget about Vishnu. Now, I got initiated by Yuraya, I got initiated by Yuraya Maharaj, does that mean actually Krishna actually replaced Vishnu, or is it still Vishnu, but I'm thinking like Vishnu? No, no, Vishnu and Krishna are the same person, it's just, let's say, let's say they're a singer, right, and he's here, he's in the lottery, but maybe after a few days he goes to work, then he's a manager, so when he's here, he's a manager, and when he's here, he's just in bhakti, so it's like that, when Krishna's managing the universe, he's Vishnu, and when he's just enjoying past times, he's Krishna, it's the same person,
3:35So it's still Vishnu, but I should still think of Vishnu as Krishna in the heart. No, just think Krishna is there, forget Vishnu. Just Krishna. It was Vishnu before, but now you've been initiated by Guru. I've had it. Now, the Supreme Lord, instead, you see, Vishnu is neutral. Vishnu is completely neutral, but when we start to serve, then he'll take the form that we want to serve.
3:56Of Krishna. Yeah, so you've become initiated in Krishna mantra, so now it's Krishna in the heart. Like he's actually there? Yes. So when you get initiated by a pure devotee, Krishna actually, literally replaces Vishnu as Paramatma. When I replaced him, Krishna was pretending to be Paramatma and now he shows himself. Now he reveals himself as Vishnu.
4:16Vishnu is just like Krishna in the world, doing a job. So I should meditate that two-armed Krishna is actually in the heart guiding me. Wow. I have good questions. No, I'm really good at it.
4:32And that's all, maybe I'll have one later and come back, but thank you so much. Oh, the third question, are you a Maharaj or, like, I don't, I don't know. No, I'm married, I'm grihastha devotee, but it's not uncommon in the history of Vaishnavas.
4:48Bhakti Vinoda Thakura, even Vyasadeva—we worship every guru as Vyasa, but Vyasadeva himself is grihastha, otherwise where did Shukadeva Gosvami come from?
4:59Maharaj means like great king, we use it for sannyasis, but it means like great personality, right? Yeah, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, you can use it, even a grihastha can be a maharaja.
5:08Yes, yeah, yeah, but I mean, I just tell everyone to call me their servant, you can call me Dasa or Anudasa. What's the appropriate name, Prabhu? Prabhu. Prabhu, okay, because I, I am always, but that really helped me with chanting, so I have a beginning stage, That class on the harinama, about the power of the name, he went through all the points, one by one, he sang, it really helped him.
5:35It helped, especially him clarifying that in the beginning, focus on chanting and hearing, and then automatically Krishna manifests, and then the remembering is natural. I'm already thinking of, we'll talk later, not on recording, about a non-tattva conversation. Oh, okay, yeah. That was a good conversation, you got that. Hey, thank you so much.
5:57There's so many things that can be possible at this point.
