0:23We heard that a sadhaka in this world, when he arrives at the stage of bhava, he will have to appear in one universe where Sri Krishna is manifesting His pastime, because he cannot get from bhava to prema by his own sadhana in this sadhaka form. He has to serve directly Sri Krishna, as I understood.
0:48It is not always true. It may be that a devotee comes to the stage of a bhava, and then when prema comes, he gives up this body, and he enters into the bhauma-vrindavan. Or it may be, if Krishna wants that he'll have prema and also be in the world, then he can attain prema.
1:13But his body is completely, by the influence of prema, there's no material aspect of his body. His body becomes completely transcendental. But the Supreme Lord can keep him in this world. It is up to Krishna to decide what to do. But the general case is that when bhava is there, then when prema will come, the devotee will be. It's a general case, but it's not a fixed rule.
1:39дорожка перевода · текст английскийVraja, Radha, Vrindavan, Vraja, goch Iovi Dávi Pribhajan, to be called, Krishna, Mursu, straight-up, Krishna, may be able to structure his body, and his body will be fully transcendental. It's all for Krishna.
2:18Sadhana, in sadhak-ruja, because I understood like that, because you... You would hear sadhana? Is that possible? No, this is not the point. The point is that, in this stage of bhava it's not called sadhana any more, because sadhana is indriya-prerana. That means it's instigated from the platform of the senses.
2:46На стадии bhava наша духовная практика уже не называется sadhana, потому что sadhana — это indriya-prerana. это когда она побуждается внешними нашими усилиями чувств, с платформой чувств.
3:00So in the state of sadhana, the devotee, he begins to chant and he begins to dance and then some divine emotions, They begin to manifest in the heart. In the stage of bhava, the divine emotion is already there and they make him chant and they make him dance. And so the hearing and chanting, remembering of the devotee in the stage of bhava is not indriya-prerana instigated from the platform of the senses, but it's an anubhava, it's a reaction to the feeling in the heart.
3:36And therefore, it's not called sadhana. And this is why we say you can't get prema by sadhana, because when you come to bhava, it's not sadhana, it's not called sadhana anymore.
3:51It's not in the stage of, though he's having the pastime of being a sadhak, of course, but he's not in the stage of sadhana-bhakti, he's in the stage of bhakti, he's in the stage of bhava.
4:00When Vrindavan находится on the level of sadhana, then he himself obligates his feelings to be... [repeated]
4:27дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd this is anubhava, i.e. his natural reactions... [repeated]
4:36дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd so there is a distinction, we say that sadhana-bhakti and bhava-bhakti are different things.
4:44That's why it's said by sadhana you cannot get prema.
4:47дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo it's said that by sadhana you cannot get prema.
4:52But that doesn't mean that the devotee in bhava is not hearing and chanting and remembering and begging for prema.
5:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut that doesn't mean that the devotee in bhava is not hearing and chanting and remembering and begging for prema.
5:08Of course he is. He is begging more than anyone in the prior stages.
5:18And another speciality is that when will that prema appear? That is not dependent on the intensity of that devotee's engagement in hearing, chanting and remembering. From the stage of bhava one will only become perfect by kripa. To go from bhava to prema, it depends on kripa, mercy. And Sri Krishna will choose where and when and how to give that mercy, and no one can predict it.
5:51дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd another point, that the transition from the stage bhava to the stage prema does not depend on the extent of the intensity... On this stage, the transition completely depends on the grace, only from the divine grace of Krishna. And only Krishna himself decides when and where to give this grace. That is, no one can predict it.
6:14Okay, that's good. Anyone else? You mentioned that this is, there is no effort to enter in the Gaura-lila, because does it mean that actually this is the Gaura-lila and this body and the body of our Acharya are also, when they are purified, this is the reality of the Gaura-lila?
6:52Translate the question.
6:55Рута-прабху, вы сказали ранее, что нам не нужно прилагать особых усилий, чтобы попасть в Гаура-лилу. Можем ли мы сказать, что это реальность, в которой мы живем, учитывая, что наш Ачарья находится в своей собственной форме, что это уже Гаура-лила?
7:20He is the... it is here, Vishvanatha Chakravarti Thakur is saying, that when Chaitanya Mahaprabhu came to this world, he caused, he is the... Madhurya Kadambini, Mahaprabhu is like a great cloud of sweetness, who is raining that sweetness onto the world, like a monsoon cloud in the monsoon season, he is flooding the world with sweetness.
7:57дорожка перевода · текст английскийQUESTIONA-ta, Chaitanya'sa kato, the in this story, that I am very far from this storm... and I am similar to some sort of a wicked solomon, who is far from the sea.
8:32But where there is so much water, where there is an ocean, then the air becomes humid, it's not dry, the vapor goes into the air.
8:44дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut there, where there is an ocean, in such a place where there is a lot of water, the wind becomes wet, because there is a puddle.
8:53And then the wind can blow that vapor and carry those droplets in the air to that dry twig in the desert, then that plant may come alive.
9:06дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd the wind can fall out of these wetlands, where a lot of water is flowing, and the wind can fall out of these waters, where a lot of water is flowing.
9:26So, in the same way, at the time when Mahaprabhu was doing his lila, that was the flood of nectar.
9:32дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd when Mahaprabhu was doing his lila, that was the flood of nectar.
9:36And now extending, it's like an extension of that lila, the guru-parampara.
9:46And the creeper of the guru-parampara is the wind which is carrying the droplets of vapour from the Gaura-lila through the ages to the dried twigs in the desert and making them come alive.
10:03We are like the dried twigs in the desert, and our Guru Parampara, their mercy is the wind, bringing the drops of nectar from that time of the Great Flood.
10:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийIn the time of the Great Flood, there was a great wave of love, of nectar, and what is happening now? Our Guru-parampara, and we are all the same with the soaked trees in the forest, and our Guru-parampara is the same with the wind, which is the love of our love of nectar.
10:29дорожка перевода · текст английскийSadhana, kirtan, kirtan, kirtan... kirtan.
10:35So, definitely, there's a sense in which the guru-parampara, their mercy coming to us, and our becoming enveloped into the extension of Mahaprabhu's mission is one aspect of Gaura-lila.
10:51дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat, of course, the fact that Guru-parampara gives us the grace of the Guru-parampara and the fact that Guru-parampara gives us the grace of Mahaprabhu,
11:32I know he is a prakāśa, one manifestation of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
11:37дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd when our dreams are exalted, then we realize that our spirits come from consciousness, that our Gurudeva is one hand, I know that my Gurudeva is one hand, a servant, and the other hand, that this is his grace, of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and the other hand, that it is his prakāśa, his revelation.
11:56So there is, in that sense, "yadyapi… caitanya-prakāśa…"
12:05Those pastimes of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu are going on even today, but only those who are fortunate can realize it.
12:12дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd in this sense, we can say that the lila of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is happening at the same time and now, but only those successful personalities can see it.
12:23So that means the lila of Mahaprabhu is going on in the avirbhava, when the Supreme Lord takes a form which is different from His svarupa to achieve something, Then this is going on, this is in the form of our Guru-parampara. And at the same time, when one becomes purified by connection with parampara, then one can realize Gauranga Mahaprabhu in His original svarupa, in apricot form, that the lila is also going on today. Understand?
12:53дорожка перевода · текст английскийTo jest takie pojęcia, jak avirbhāva... Gospodź Czaitanja.
13:24Also, one other fine point to remember is that though this sādhaka form that you have now, by which you are gradually being incorporated into the flow of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mercy, but this will not be the sādhaka form which is really perfect in the Gaura-lila, yes.
13:47дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's important to understand that this sādhaka form that we try to perform bhakti, and, thanks to our guru, we are attracted to Mahaprabhu, this sādhaka form is not our siddha form in Gaura-lila, that is, our spiritual form.
14:06So one should not think that his sādhaka form in this world is his sādhaka-līlā siddha form, you see? In Gaura-lila everyone is having a lila as if they are sādhakas, but they are siddhas. So don't think that your sādhaka form in this world, sādhaka-rūpa, is your sadhaka-lila, siddha form.
14:29Gaura-lila, у всех есть такая līlā, что они sādhaki, но на самом деле они уже siddha, они совершенны, и поэтому не надо думать, что вот эта вот форма, наша форма sādhaka, это наша форма в духовном мире.
14:45Sādhaka-līlā? It's a good yoga formal. Can you say the name of this group? Sādhaka-līlā. In other words, your perfected form, having a pastime of being sādhaka, but actually being a siddha.
14:59дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's how it exists, when it comes to say that you're sādhaka and you're both a siddha.
15:07Even though that is true for Mahaprabhu's associates. Mahaprabhu associates, Rupa Goswami...
15:15Their sādhaka forms here are the same as the ones they have in the spiritual world, in Mahaprabhu's lila.
15:25дорожка перевода · текст английскийThis is related to the eternal spirit of Mahaprabhu, such as Rāya Rāmānanda, Svarūpa Dāmodara. Their form of sādhaka matches with the eternal spirit of the form.
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