0:01He's such cute people.
0:24I heard for the watches about the state of Adhikar, Kaništkhan, Matyama Adhikar, Lutom Adhikar, and every Adhikar have subgroup, like Matyama Kaništkhan. I didn't hear about this. Can you stay at this point?
0:58So, Sathkirti Prabhu, he is asking about the levels of adhikara, levels of qualification or eligibility in pure bhakti. Sathkirti Prabhu, I ask you a question about the quality of pure bhakti. So, in Bhaktira Samashya Sindhu, and in Chaitanya Tarnabrita, there, it is described three levels of eligibility for Vaidhi Sadhana Bhakti. In Bhaktira Samashya Sindhu and in Chaitanya Cervita Amrita, there are three levels of qualifica regarding the Sadhana of Vaidhi Bhakti.
1:55And they are Kanishta, Neophyte, Madhyam, Intermediate Level, and Uttam.
2:08So, the Kanishta Adhikari begins from Adolfsrata, when by associating with devotees, by their blessing, the Visheshanskar, a special impression, but he is in the heart.
2:24Krishna Seva Vasana, I want to serve Krishna.
2:37So now he begins to practice because of that appearance of faith.
2:46At that stage his sadhana is actually Sadhana Abbas. But in this stage, his Satana in reality is a Satana Abbas. Because the Satana of Uttama Bhakti is completely devoid of all desires. So in that stage, he still has an artist, such as Asatrishna, the thirst for material things. Because the Satana of Uttama Bhakti is the Satana in which there is no material desire, Invece in questo stadio ci sono ancora delle contaminazioni nel cuore.
3:25Allora lui poi progredisce attraverso gli stati di Vajjana Kriya Anathani Vritti e arriva allo stadio di Nishtha. E nello stadio di Nishtha lui adesso diventa Madhyamadikari.
3:46So there, in regard to this Silla Chaitanya Mahabhub, he said that Shastri Yukti Nahi Jani Driddha Sraddavan say Matyam Adhikari Mahabhagavan. Mahabhagavan, he is very fortunate. The Matyam Adhikari is very fortunate. E quindi si dice a quel punto che il Matyam Adhikari, il devoto che raggiunge questo stadio intermedio, è in realtà molto fortunato.
4:10Driddha Sraddavan, and he has firm faith, that means nishtha. and he has a firm faith, or Nishtha. But Shastra Yukti, he cannot understand clearly all the Yukti, the logic or the way of presentation of Siddhanta which is given in the scripture, Shastra Yukti. However, this devoto, although he is very fortunate, he is not able to understand Shastra Yukti, or all the details of the knowledge described in the scriptures.
4:43So if he will progress more, then he'll come to the stage of Ruchi. Ma se lui progredisce ancora, arriverà allo stadio di Ruchi. So Shastra Yukti Sunipuna, Shastra Yukti Sunipun, that means he becomes expert in the logic and reason which is presented in the Shastra. Quindi a quel punto Shastra Yukti Sunipun, lui diventa esperto nel presentare la logica e gli argomenti presentati nelle scritture.
5:10And so he is now Uttam Adhikari in the stage of Ruchi. E perciò lui adesso è Uttam Adhikari, ovvero raggiunto allo stadio di Ruchi. Now he has Uttam Adhikari. He is now can engage in Uttam Bhakti. E quindi ora che Uttam Adhikari può eseguire la Uttam Bhakti. Andi avvela stassogne, free from worldly desires, because in the stage of Ruchi, not only is Pap, one gives up sins, but part of each the seeds of sins which are in the heart are destroyed by practicing bhakti in the stage of nishtha and then when they're destroyed then luccino in lo stadio di ruci arriva quando praticando allo stadio di nishtha gradualmente tutti i semi del peccato delle azioni pecaminose
5:58del nostro cuore vengono gradualmente distrutti now there was one scholar disciple of silla His name is Shila Anantavasudev. There was a disciple from Shila Bhaktisidanta Sarasaitakuri who was very studied and studied. His name was Shila Anantavasudev. And though it's not written anywhere in the scripture that Kaneshta also has the Kaneshta, Kaneshta Kaneshta, Kaneshta Mandiam Kaneshta Uttam, and then the Mandiam Kaneshta Mandiam Mandiam Uttam, and Uttam Kaneshta Uttam, Mandiam Uttam.
6:33It's not written in the script, but he has written in this way, in one of his publications. Although in the scriptures there is not described that there are intermediaries, such as Canishta-Canishta, Canishta-Madiam, Canishta-Ultam, and then there is Madiam-Canishta, Madiam-Madiam, Madiam-Ultam, in this way, but instead he described in one of his publications this way.
6:59So, and it's reasonable to assume this, because a person does not go through the stages from first you become khanishtha in Sraddha and then directly to Nishtha, you have to go through stages to get there, so every journey, every continuum has a beginning, a middle and an Because a person can't pass from Kanishtha to Nishtha immediately, but any journey is always a gradual process.
7:38So there are three levels of Adhikar, but within the three levels it's quite an obvious fact that if you're progressing from the beginning stage of Kanishtha to the end stage of Kanishtha, so there are levels within it. So there are three levels, but in reality it's obvious that within these three levels there are micro levels in which a person gradually progresses.
8:02So that point it was not directly stated in Shastra, but in some commentary that was published by Silla Anandavasude, and he published in the name of Puridas, and that point was given.
8:32And my Gurudev also accepted these stages within him. And my Gurudev also accepted these stages within him. He made one kind of, let us say, diagram in his mind, that Sraddha is the Kaniṣṭha Kaniṣṭha and then Satu Sangha is the Kaniṣṭha Madhyam and then Bhajana Kri is Kaniṣṭha Uttam and then Madhyam Kaniṣṭha is an art and liberty and then Niṣṭha and then like this, so each of the stages of bhakti that he described, he gave them one of the designations, like this one.
9:23There are nine stages, so three times three is nine, and so there are nine stages in there. Each stage is one of those stages. But it's good that there was one of the preachers of Shiranarangos, who made a diagram in the mind that since there are 9 states in the Bhakti, Adovo Shraddha, Vazanagriya, Nartanikriti, Nishtha and so on, he said that 3x3 is 9, so if there are 3 states in the Kanishtha, 3 in the Maddiam, 3 in the Lutta, then that means that each one of them is one of them.
9:57I will not say who it was, because I will not say who it was. This is the process of bhakti, he can make some mistakes and guru corrects us. Because we all make mistakes and this is the process of bhakti, we make mistakes and then the guru corrects us. So, anyway, that devotee made an exact correspondence between 3 times 3 is 9, and then the stages of bhakti, they exactly correspond.
10:25This correspondence he made in his mind. However, in any way, that devoto, of which I don't want to say the name, made a exact correspondence between the nine states of the Bhakti and these three levels of Ghanishtha, three levels of Madhyam, and three of them. And when Shira Gurudeva already said, no, no, no, no, no, this is completely wrong.
10:47And when Shira Gurudeva, Shira Ramaraj, heard that, he said, no, no, no, this is completely wrong. Because if you do this, then you have the Maddya Madhikari, he is in the Anartha Nivriti. Because if you do this, then the initial stage of Maddya Madhikari is in the Anartha Nivriti, but it's not like that.
11:09So, if you see the description, there is a book called Vakti Tatma Vivek by Shilal Vakti Nivriti. And he describes, Kanishita is from the Ados Radha, and then when he enters into Nishtara, then that stage is complete, and then from Ruchi, when Ruchi appears, then the, sorry, from an after liberty, and when he's coming to Nishtara, this is Kanishita, when he attains Nishtara, now this is Madhyam.
11:43Madhyam is in the stage of Nishtara. There is a scripture called Bhakshitat Tvavirek, and there is described that the Stadio of Canishtha starts from Doshraddha, and while Nathaniwiti goes to Nishtha, there is still a person in the Stadio of Canishtha, and when they are completely Nishtha, then there is the Stadio of Maddya Maddya.
12:03So when he attains Ruchi, he becomes Uttam. So that means that if we can say the beginning, the middle and the end of Maddya is all within the stages of Nishtha.
12:29So the stages within the stages have not been precisely defined and they don't correspond exactly to the stages of Bhakti. So, the states that are inside the states do not have a exact correspondence with the states of the Bakhti and are not defined in a precise way. Because the states have characteristics, but it's a continuum.
12:56It is not like actual steps of a ladder. Because these stages have some characteristics, but it is a gradual continuum, not like, for example, the scales of a scale. Is it clear? Yes? Raise your hand if you have a question. You can raise your hand if you have a question. Yes, yes sir.
13:21Hi, Krishna Bude. We have a question in regards of the churning of the milk ocean. So when the demons and demigods are fighting over the honorary dark, how do we have to understand it? Is it really only on the material universal cosmic structure or can we have like an analogy to transcendence?
13:50So the demons and the demigods, they are not transcendental. The Demigods have quite high Satwaguna, and the Demons they have Rajas, the Lord and Patrons. The Demons, like the Dei, the Devata, are not transcendent. In other words, the Devata have a very high Satwaguna level, while the Demons are very powerful because they have a lot of Rajas.
14:22So this pastime of the churning of the ocean of milk, it is taking place in this world. The Kirsagar, it is the Kirsagar, the ocean of milk, which is within this universe.
14:48And it's described that in order for the Devatas and the Asuras to churn the ocean of milk, they have to be empowered. And it is described that for the Devata and Yasura were able to absorb this ice cream of the latte they needed a special potential. So, the Devatas were empowered by the increase in Sattva-guna.
15:16So, the Devatas were empowered by the increase in Sattva-guna. And the demons were empowered by the increase in Rajya-guna.
15:28And Vasuki, the snake, saw that he would not feel any pain from being used as the churning rope. There was an increasing tamaguna, so he could not feel the pain.
15:41дорожка перевода · текст английскийMentre il serpente, affinché non trovasse dolore nel venire utilizzato come corda per agitare questo ceno di latte, a lui fu aumentato il tamaguna.
15:58дорожка перевода · текст английскийAllora viene una domanda, perché nella Bhagavad Gita, Shri Krishna spiega che i tre guna sono sempre in competizione tra loro.
16:09Quindi se uno dei tre guna aumenta, gli altri diminuiscono, non possono aumentare tutti e tre contemporaneamente. So, why does it say in Srimad Bhagavatam that the Rajas, the Tamas, and the Srimad Bhagavatam all went up? How is that possible?
16:38Because this is the pastime of the Supreme.
16:44See, the Supreme Lord appears in many forms. Mohini Murti, Forma Avatar, Ajit, Dandantari. There are so many different incarnations of the Lord involved in this pastime. Il Signore Supremo appare in tantissime forme, molti avatara, e in questo passatempo. So, in the pastimes of the Lord, everything is perfect. E nei passatempi del Signore tutto è perfetto.
17:11But people in this world, they are under the control of Rajas and Tamas.
17:18so we know that in the spiritual world everything is going on perfectly everything is spiritual there by yoga maya but when the Lord incarnates in his world he interacts with persons who are in the gunas so then how will his pastime be perfect? he may be trying to do a pastime and some crazy person shows up and spoils it because they're in the gunas So, the activities in the spiritual world are manifested by the spiritual Kriya Shakti.
18:12And when the Supreme Lord comes to this world, then the Abbas, that means the effulgence of the Kriya Shakti, becomes united with Maya. E quando il Signore Supremo discende in questo mondo, la Abbas, ovvero l'effulgenza della sua Kriya Shakti, si unisce con Maya, con l'energia materiale. Così come quando noi ci muoviamo, la nostra ombra anche si muove.
18:43And maya, the shadow of that, is synchronized with it. And so, even though the persons in the lila themselves are in Rajas and Tamas, but they always do everything completely according to what is perfect for that lila. Allo stesso modo, quando il Signore Supremo discende in questo mondo, la sua energia spirituale si muove e maya è completamente sincronizzata con essa.
19:08Perciò, persino se nei passatempi del Signore Supremo ci sono delle persone that are completely under control of the three Guna, however, all that they do is in accordance with the Lord's desire.
19:43of the external potency at that time when the Supreme Lord is appearing and performing his pastimes in the material world. So, since in this time there appeared various Avatar of the Lord, like Dambathari, Barbelachmidevi, although, despite the Devata, Yasura and the serpent, they were under control of the three Guna, they are not transcendental, but all that they did was under control of the Lord.
20:10Otherwise, it is impossible for Saptor, Rajas and Tamas to all go up at the same time. Otherwise, it is not possible that in that situation there was a miracle thing, that the three Guna went up to the same level. So, from the pastime of the churning of the ocean of milk, there are many teachings, but one of the teachings is how the pastimes of the Supreme Lord can manifest in the material world.
20:39So in this passage of the deva and yasura that gave us an ocean of milk, there are many teachings but one of them is how the Supreme Lord can manifest His transcendental passages in this material world. Of course, the other teaching is that because the demons followed the instructions of the Supreme Lord, they became successful. The demigods became successful following the instructions of the Lord.
21:07but the demons fall in their own minds then they were cheated of the Amrita un altro insegnamento è che siccome i Devada seguirono le istruzioni del Signore ebbero successo mentre i demoni Yasura
21:21дорожка перевода · текст английскийsiccome seguirono la propria mente
21:24furono ingannati e non ottennero ciò che volevano and on a metaphorical level it means that if a person wants to attain immortality eternal life It cannot be attained without effort.
21:38дорожка перевода · текст английскийA livello metaforico, un altro insegnamento è che se una persona vuole ottenere il nettare dell'immortalità, l'ambrità, non può ottenerlo senza sforzo.
21:50And it cannot be attained very easily without following a particular process with patience and determination.
22:07And still, even with all of those things, we cannot attain that Amrita without the mercy of the Lord.
22:28there had to be tremendous effort, a particular process, and the mercy of the Lord together. So in this time we see that to achieve success in life it was necessary to do a great effort, with a great determination, to follow a particular process, but also to obtain the mercy of the Lord. Is it true?
22:52God bless you!
