0:09To ask if there is a difference between the leaders of a pure eternal associate of Krishna when he performs the pastimes of being a regular human being that then takes a shelter of a professional to show us the path of bhakti and the past of a normal person who to devotional service to his guru has realized his spiritual form and went to Goloka Vrindavan to serve to his.
0:39Dr. Velocidad.
0:41And because bhakti burns all karma, the material ego, were we to look at the past of the realized person, his lilas, because at first stages of bhakti we're still under the control of karma and the material gunas. And as Gurudev said, at the stage of nishta, that our material ego has lowered the impact of the material world and the spiritual one has risen up to the stage of the love for Krishna.
0:57It's a little bit. Federico ha chiesto se c'è differenza tra loro due, perché da una parte c'è una persona che quando la bhakti diventa pura, brucia tutto il karma, ma è anche l'ego materiale del passato, del presente e del futuro, quindi poi magari non c'è più differenza tra lui e un eterno associato, però d'altro canto anche una persona è vero che durante lo...
1:09So if an associate of Krishna comes to this world then it may be that in their early life they seem to behave like a normal person. So, but this is the arrangement of Yogamaya, Krishna's spiritual potency; they're never under the material energy.
1:40дорожка перевода · текст английскийQuesta in realtà è tutta una cosa organizzata da Yogamaya, il potere dei passatempi di Krishna, perché in realtà lui non è sotto il karma perché viene dal mondo spirituale.
2:27E queste persone avranno dei sintomi che sono attratte a Dio fin dall'infanzia.
2:50Just like Srila Prabhupada, when he was five years old, he was not playing football with his friends, he was playing Ratha-yatra, he made a small Ratha-yatra with Jagannatha and called all his friends and they used to pull Jagannatha around, this was his playing, like Prahlad Maharaj also, he only used to play devotional things, kirtan and things like that.
3:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийKirtan, chiamava i suoi amici, gli faceva trascinare il carro di Ratha-yatra, oppure Prahlad Maharaj, che fin da quando era bambino non giocava come tutti gli altri, ma sempre faceva kirtan, ne parlava di Dio.
3:09But you see, for example, Srila Prabhupada, when he became a teenager and young man, he went to college and he was involved in Hindu nationalism and some political things, you know, that were going on in India at that time. Per esempio vediamo un passatempo speciale quando Srila Prabhupada era giovane, lui è andato al college e era diciamo nella politica.
3:52дорожка перевода · текст английскийPerché c'era un movimento che l'India cercava di ottenere l'indipendenza e Srila Prabhupada ne era parte di questo movimento.
4:04Quindi ha avuto il passatempo che il suo guru ha mostrato a lui che in questo mondo nessuno è indipendente.
4:19дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd our mission in this world is to realize our eternal relationship with God and help others realize that. This is more important than any worldly adjustments.
4:28He explained that the real mission in this world is the realization of God, and this is much more important than any other material situation that we can justify. But the people who knew him at that time, they saw him like an ordinary person, and it was later in his life, he has the pastime of receiving the mercy of Guru and then he manifested and everyone could see that he was a great Acharya.
4:46Even in a thousand years such a great Acharya for preaching the holy name throughout the world had not appeared in this world.
5:04дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo then let's look at the other category that she was mentioning.
5:14What is the situation where there is a conditioned soul who by the mercy of his spiritual master is gradually becoming liberated and then he eventually becomes perfect? Quindi c'è l'altra categoria delle anime condizionate che sono perse in questo mondo materiale però grazie alla misericordia di una persona santa gradualmente ottengono la perfezione spirituale.
5:37Now, we should know that the quality of that perfection is not less.
6:03Dobbiamo sapere che la qualità della perfezione che raggiunge quella persona non è minore di quella di una persona che non è mai stata in maya.
6:17дорожка перевода · текст английскийBecause the prema that they realize is the eternally perfect, it is not a new prema, it is a prema from the spiritual world that enters into them.
6:35дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat love is eternally perfect in the spiritual world and when the person is chanting then it comes to him.
6:41So when he may not be the nitya-siddha, eternally perfect, but the perfection he attains was a nitya-siddha. And the love was nitya-siddha that he attained, so in quality there's no difference. Perché? Perché questo amore per Dio che questa persona ottiene è perfetto, è eterno, quindi anche se questa persona magari può non essere eternamente liberata perché in passato stava in illusione, quando ottiene questo amore puro per Dio, questo è della stessa qualità di una persona che invece sta eternamente nel mondo spirituale.
7:03So, for any Vaishnava, pure Vaishnava, one should consider that their body is sac-cid-ananda. Qualsiasi puro devoto, noi dobbiamo considerare che una persona santa, il suo corpo è sac-cid-ananda.
7:15дорожка перевода · текст английскийChaitanya Mahaprabhu has explained this in teaching to Sanatana Goswami.
7:34Chaitanya Mahaprabhu spiega questo negli insegnamenti a Sanatana Goswami.
7:43дорожка перевода · текст английскийIn the stage of nishta, the material ego and the spiritual ego are about half and half.
7:49Quando una persona sta nello stadio di nishta, che è uno stadio relativamente avanzato del cammino spirituale, quella persona si trova a metà con un ego materiale e a metà con un ego spirituale.
7:53So the true nature of pure bhakti appears in ruchi, that is when the spiritual ego is more influential than the material.
7:58Quindi la vera natura della pura bhakti si manifesta a ruchi, quando una persona ottiene il gusto per il santo nome, eccetera, e questo è quando l'ego spirituale è diventato prominente rispetto a quello materiale.
8:04дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd the eternally perfect love, it fills the heart in the stage of bhava, in the high stage.
8:14So when a devotee comes into that stage, now his mood is perfect.
8:34And when a person arrives to this bhava, the mood of love for God is perfect and it is written in the scriptures that a person doesn't have to investigate the past of that person before it becomes perfect.
8:46Actually, for someone who doesn't have realization, it will not make any difference, but for someone whose faith has not become strong yet, then if they try to be like Sherlock Holmes and make some investigation, they may find something which they cannot reconcile, even someone coming from this spiritual, they may not be able to reconcile.
9:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd when a person arrives to this bhāva, the mood of love for God is perfect and it is written in the scriptures that a person doesn't have to investigate the past of that person before it becomes perfect.
9:26Actually, for someone who doesn't have realization, it will not make any difference, but for someone whose faith has not become strong yet, then if they try to be like Sherlock Holmes and make some investigation, they may find something which they cannot reconcile, even someone coming from this spiritual, they may not be able to reconcile.
9:50One should not make an investigation like a detective into the life of a devotee prior to the attainment of perfection.
9:57дорожка перевода · текст английскийUno non deve fare un'investigazione della vita dei puri devoti prima che ottengano la perfezione, in realtà una persona che ha realizzazione spirituale nel farlo non c'è nessun pericolo, però invece una persona che non ha molta fede nel farlo potrebbe trovare delle cose nella vita passata del puro devoto che non riesce a riconciliare e quindi non riconoscere che lui è una persona santa.
10:19It's mentioned in one book called Nām-kaumudī. Nām? Kaumudī. Kaumudī. Kaumudī. It's one type of flower. It's one type of flower. So, and I remember also my Gurudev told me, oh, you should write my biography. So he called me to his room and sat and he began to tell me about his life from his childhood. But from the childhood side, he only told a little bit. He said, there's no need.
10:51I need to just give a little context and then go on what happened after I met my Gurudev when I was serving. Before that don't investigate. It's not important. I remember that my Gurudev told me to come and help me to write a biography, an autobiography. He talked to me and then wrote, but from his childhood he said only a few things.
11:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийE disse solo per dare un pochettino di contesto e poi subito iniziò a scrivere riguardo a dopo che ha conosciuto il guru e quando serviva il suo guru, perché dice che tutto il resto prima non serve.
11:25Ok, is it clear? Yeah, in both cases. And we can add that the ordinary person, if they look at both cases, they cannot tell the difference.
11:44дорожка перевода · текст английскийNon vedo nessuna differenza.
11:46Thank you. Good morning day. So now a little break in breakfast. And then please begin the bhajans at once at 10.30.
12:03You should think that now for seven days you're all like monks.
12:11дорожка перевода · текст английскийDovete pensare che adesso per sette giorni siete tutti come monaci.
12:16Monks and nuns, staying in the cloister, in the monastery, in the convent, without any connection with the external world. Che stanno nel monastero, nel convento, senza nessuna connessione con il mondo esterno, and 24 hours a day, always praying and serving. E qua 24 ore al giorno, solamente pregare e servire, and then, by the end of the week, you may realize something.
12:42дорожка перевода · текст английскийE poi se fate così alla fine della settimana potreste realizzare qualcosa.
12:46E avere del gusto e assaporare l'atmosfera spirituale. Che in realtà è così dolce e bella. Che se riusciamo ad assaporarla non avremo mai più voglia di assaporare l'atmosfera materiale, mai più.
13:12Vṛndāvanānande.
