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0:01You can raise your hand, if you have a question. Thank you, Gurudev, for the opportunity. So, this question is a continuation of previous question. On many years before, in Estrehan, on the roof, you said that Kaniṣṭha Adhikārī, they have kiñcit karma adhikāra. And in one class in a village, in a farm, you also give verse.

0:56And in this class you said that really very few people goes even through first transformation, make your karma to dharma and even less make dharma to vairāgya. So, I have some begging for you, that you give us adapter for even Manah-śikṣā classes. You said that Raja Guna is very dangerous, so when you're working, you look to screen, screen is blinking, it's like injection of Raja Guna, when you work with business people, there's also injection of Raja Guna, so it's question how to adopt for people who have kiñcit-karma adhikāra, your classes about Manah-śikṣā and...

1:41And in my personal experience, you said that if you make your duties without attachment to result, like in the mood, it's like yajña, it's a lead to jñāna, but I'm trying, but in my personal experience, so more working, I feel that my citta even not expanding, more compound, and I just feel not go to sattva and more working, go to tamas. So maybe you give some good advices for us. Thank you.

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ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā, cakṣur unmīlitaṃ yena tasmai śrī-gurave namaḥ.
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2:26So, Krishna said,

2:29Krishna said,

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tāvad karmāṇi kurvīta na vidyeta yāvatā, mat-kathā-śravaṇādau vā śraddhā yāvan na jāyate.
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2:40So, a person has to do their karma,

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3:19And if someone has developed faith in Krishna-katha, they also don't have to do any worldly obligations. So the renounced persons can leave everything. And those who are householders, the pariniṣṭhita-sādhaka, they can do some interaction with the world, connected to varṇāśrama-dharma, but not in a way that it's contrary to bhakti.

3:56дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd that is to set a good example for others, and some out of social stability.

4:07So, the first person has jñāna adhikāra, and the second person has the bhakti adhikāra.

4:21So, when it is said that the Kaniṣṭha Adhikārī has īṣat adhikāra, a little bit of adhikāra for karma, that means that the Kaniṣṭha Adhikārī has komala-śraddhā, his faith is soft, you see,

4:34Vera.

4:34Vera, śraddhā, because it's the firm faith that makes one eligible to not have to do any worldly duties.

4:41Вера становится сильной, то она позволяет быть незадействованной фермерских обязанностей. Вот так нужно понимать.

4:47So, the firm faith, śraddhā, has been described, śraddhā, śraddhā, śraddhā, śraddhā,

4:53дорожка перевода · текст английскийŚraddhā, śraddhā, śraddhā, śraddhā, it means the unflinching conviction and confidence that simply by serving Krishna, all other activities, all other responsibilities, all other duties have been discharged, they have been met, they have been performed, and there is nothing else that has to be done.

5:30дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, such a person can very easily renounce all worldly activities and depend on Krishna, because Krishna has said,

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ananyāś cintayanto māṃ ye janāḥ paryupāsate, teṣāṃ nityābhiyuktānāṃ yoga-kṣemaṃ vahāmy aham.
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5:47If someone is one pointedly absorbed in me and always worshiping and serving me, then yoga, kṣema, whatever they have, I protect it, I will maintain it, and whatever they need, I will personally bring it to myself.

6:07So the maintenance and also requirements, yoga-kṣema, they're all managed by Sri Krishna. So it may be that if a Vaishnava is the pariniṣṭhita, I'm not renouncing everything, but still he renouncing the mentality that I am responsible for my yoga-kṣema.

6:34дорожка перевода · текст английскийUnderstand? Because if a person thinks I am my own maintainer, I am my own supporter, I am acquiring my own resources, that that is puruṣa-abhimāna. So even a householder devotee, who may have some interaction with the world, then, but still, he never thinks, oh, by this activity, I am maintaining I support myself with this activity, not Krishna, I support Krishna.

7:06So, you are saying that in a practical experience, that when you are doing some work, then you become completely entangled in that.

7:17And this is, how can you overcome it? How can you overcome it? You have to increase your sadhana.

7:28Because if a person, they have very strong sadhana. Sādhana. If they have to interact something with the world, they do that.

7:39дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf they have to interact something with the world, they do that. They are udāsīna, they are indifferent, they are neutral, it is only external, it is only external, it is only external, just like Kolavecha Sridhar.

7:49Kolavecha Sridhar, Kolavecha Sridhar has collected his bananas, and banana leaves, and cups, and banana flour, sometimes.

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8:29дорожка перевода · текст английскийFrom the power of the holy name, then the samatvam yoga ucyate. Yoga means an equilibrium of mind, steadiness of mind, mahānta's taste, samacitta, praśānta. The mahānta, the great devotees, they are peaceful, and they are in equilibrium, and they are in equilibrium, and actually having to contend with the world for everyone, whether one is renounced or not.

9:00Everyone has to contend with some situation.

9:03То есть человек отречён или не отречён, всё равно надо как-то взаимодействовать с миром. Иногда брахмачарии, им приходится там...

9:12Матьи друг с другом борются или с другим матхом борются. Вот, то есть это проблема и домохозяинов, и брахмачариев. То есть внешняя ситуация вообще не важна. Главное, что внутри происходит.

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9:58Это значит, что у вас нестабильное, колеблющиеся сознание.

10:06Во 2 главе Бхагавад-гиты говорится...

10:17Кто является стхира-дхи-муни, тот, кто может совершать манану, медитировать на стхиру.

10:41When the cause of suffering and difficulty comes, his mind is not disturbed, he is not disturbed, and when success and happiness come, his mind is not elated. The devotee feels elation, he feels a citta-ullāsa.

11:03дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut not based on worldly things. His citta-ullāsa comes from seeing Krishna teasing gopis, that he becomes happy. But his happiness is not hardwired to the situation of the outer world at all. He is steady in that regard. And so, to contend with this outer situation of life, it is always a test, an opportunity to practice.

11:33дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's always a test, and it's possible to be tested, but it's very difficult if you don't chant deeply every day. Just like if you have water, and you put one drop of red dye, everything becomes pink. So if in the morning you are chanting deeply and remembering Krishna, then when you go about your activities, whether there are some outer world obligations, or whether as devotees who are doing anything full time...

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12:05дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut that bhāva, when you're chanting, this bhāva, which yoga's source will spread your whole day. Exhortation through the spiritual sound, it will spread the whole day. So please be patient. Practice sacrifice, Krishna told. Everything is very difficult to control the mind. It's really easier to control the wind than to control the mind. It's easier to control the wind, more than to control the mind. I agree. Yes.

12:33дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut it is possible by abhyāsa and vairāgya, by repeated practice, and by being dispassionate, vairāgya, dispassionate. So in Bhagavad-gītā, the symptoms of the tamo-guṇa, rajo-guṇa and sattva-guṇa are being described in relation to all aspects of life, in relation to work, in relation to... So this is a metric, it's a measurement, a measurement by which we can estimate to what degree we are becoming free from the guṇas.

13:22Kirtana, abhyāsa, would be absorbed in the guṇa in different areas of life. Vishnu abhyāsa would be absorbed in the guṇa in different areas of life.

13:32дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's just so that we have a metric, a metric for which we have a measuring system, to estimate the degree to which we are becoming nir-guṇa.

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14:14дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd the citta is no longer impeded, obstructed by the guṇas. So the stage comes when he is in āsakti, when he is in āsakti. Though there is a shadow of the guṇas, but it cannot impede the flow of one's bhakti. So be patient, be persistent, be consistent, be determined, be very humble,

14:47и терпеливы, и вы можете этого достичь.

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The verse you mentioned, ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhā varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ, svanuṣṭhitasya dharmasya saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam. The verse you mentioned... na svātmānaṁ vidaḥ svārthaṁ na vin mṛta-dhiyāṁ purāṁ, na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇuṁ durāśayā ye bahir-artha-māninaḥ.
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15:05This is not for all persons, it's for the whole of society.

15:13Это для всего общества.

15:15It's for the whole of society.

15:17дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut if a person has come to pure bhakti and taken shelter of guru, then this is related, but this verse itself is for the whole society, like, for example, ataḥ pumbhir..., just the translation of the verse, if one's karma, the performance of duty, is not done for dharma, and if the dharma does not lead to vairagya, and if the dharma does not lead to bhakti, then the person,

15:48человек кажется живым, но он мертв.

15:52Человек кажется живым, но он мертв.

15:56A person seems to be alive, but is considered a dead body.

16:02Why is he a dead body?

16:03Потому что если что-то живое, то оно растет.

16:10Если что-то растет, оно внутренне движется к своему совершенству. И поэтому каждая душа должна быть прогрессивной. Это смысл понятия «арий». Арий не означает светлые волосы и голубые глаза. Арий означает того, кто ведет прогрессивную жизнь, где душа совершает прогресс к своей конечной цели.

16:55A wife never says the name of the husband, she says Aryaputra, son of a Arya. So Arya, another meaning of Arya, which is beautiful, means noble, son of a nobleman. So who is noble? Of course, he is noble, who does not have materialistic values.

17:20materiain kwenha, macerai, balhivaj, kiwana.

17:22Человек с материалистическими ценностями не благороден, они не благородны, потому что ради своего материального наслаждения они могут сделать что угодно, тогда как обычный человек — это человек, у которого есть цель, задача за пределами временных материальных вещей, поэтому у них может быть целостность, у них есть ценности за пределами чистого эгоизма. эгоизм и так далее. И так, «арий» означает человека, который ведет прогрессивную жизнь, у них есть духовные ценности, и поэтому они не работают ради денег или наслаждения. Если они работают, то их работа для восстановления их сознания. В этом материальном мире их сознание загрязнено, и поэтому работа не ради прибыли.

18:24В этом обществе работа не ради прибыли. Может быть и прибыль, и на эту прибыль вы можете жить и содержать себя, но это не суть работы. Суть работы, суть долга — это восстановление нашего духа.

18:43Итак, «атаḥ пумбхир...» означает, если человек просто делает деятельность ради прибыли, но не говорит, что на самом деле я должен делать деятельность ради очищения. Но это не правильно. Вы должны думать, что на самом деле я должен делать деятельность ради очищения. Если мы заинтересованы, они кажутся живыми, но они мертвы, потому что не совершают никакого прогресса. Итак, Варнашрама-дхарма...

19:30So, if a person is doing his work as a sacrament, just like in Christian church, they go and they take the sacrament, why? For purification. In Vedic culture, your whole life is a sacrament.

19:45Ну то есть, в ведической культуре, вся ваша жизнь, даже в работе, если ваша работа, это не ягья, то это свяжет вас с материальным миром, рождением, перерождением.

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So, tad-artham karma kaunteya mukta-saṅgaḥ samācara, Krishna says, therefore, you work as a sacrifice to Vishnu, and that is the daivī-varṇāśrama-dharma. And if one does this, working without attachment, as a sacrifice to the Lord, for the sake of purification, then what will happen? Because Rajas and Tamas will go away, sattvaṁ sañjāyate jñānam,
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20:37И так, знание, знание придет. А что такое знание? Различение между материей и духом. И так знание, джнана и вайрагья приходят вместе. И так знание, джнана и вайрагья приходят вместе.

20:50So, ataḥ pumbhir..., na virāgya kalpate, if his karma is not the sacrament of honest work, dutiful work, or if his dutiful work does not lead to jñāna,

21:06и если нет работы и вайрагьи, криччхатавата...

21:17Bhakti...

21:19Каш нода, криччатада, это имя Кришны.

21:24Если прогресс не идет, он падает.

21:32Если этот прогресс не идет, его счастье неполно. Тогда он даже не жив, он даже не жив.

21:37Learning to Guru. Because his life has no value.

21:39Он живет без всякого постоянства.

21:47So he may as well be dead.

21:52Так что этот стих описывает этот стих описывает духовную телеологию

22:00of the entire society.

22:03всего общества.

22:07But when a person comes to guru and takes shelter, now he's in that stage already.

22:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийNow he's in that stage already.

22:16Now he's doing Tirthapadaseva, he's doing Tirthapadaseva, already.

22:22So the other things, they are not so relevant, they are not so relevant, but because the Kanishtha-adhikari has komala-shraddha, soft faith,

22:35дорожка перевода · текст английскийHe still has some eligibility that he can perform the outer activities in a detached way, so the environment for his practice of bhakti is not too chaotic, because if a person doesn't follow Dharma in their life, Dharma brings order, brings order.

22:58If, of course, it does not follow Dharma, then their life will be chaos.

23:04дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf we follow Dharma, then their life will be chaos. Because everyone is acting whimsically, no one knows what to do, no one can expect, if you have a dharmic society, everyone knows what to expect from everyone else. If no one is following Dharma, no one has responsibility, no one can expect from anyone, it's just a life full of surprises.

23:30дорожка перевода · текст английскийi nipriatni surprizi, v osnovnom.

23:33Oh, yeah, yeah, but I thought we got married.

23:36Da-da, no, я думаю, мы поженились, а теперь ты платишь после года, то есть это сюрприз.

23:42Chaos in society, no structure, no expectations, so there's no peace.

23:46Just нет структуры, нет ожиданий, нет спокойствия. Ну, что ты будешь делать сегодня?

23:51Меду наркотики, к тюрьму, там, напьешь,

23:54a car into someone. Just say, anything that you do that is against Dharma makes chaos in society.

24:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo Dharma makes order, and so obviously if a person wants to practice bhakti, it's easier to do it if you're not in the middle of chaos, as long as there's some bodily identification remains. If a person has no bodily identification remains, then it's not affected by anything, but as long as one still has some elements of conditioning, then an orderly life, he is a favorable.

24:32Yes, no six years.

24:39Wait, wait, there was one lady's question. I have a question about Kalpataru, Srila Bhakti Vinoda Thakura. There we can see the 20 roles of devotees which they can perform like... and I cannot understand them because it's like care of heavy sins or barber or a person who in charge of the light and I don't understand, is it all allegory?

25:11Yes. Or and how? It does not mean that in your Nama-hatta program someone has to be in charge of cutting the hair, someone has to be in charge of doing the laundry, this is poetry, yeah, they are metaphors.

25:27дорожка перевода · текст английскийThe barber means that if a new person is coming, someone should take responsibility to help them change their worldly habits into proper devotional life, so that's like the barber, because all your karma is coming out of your head, so you shave, and that shaving symbolizes the disconnection from your past activities.

25:56дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo he's the barber, that person in the Nama-hatta group, who is welcoming the new persons, and shaving them up, and disconnecting them from their previous bad habits and so on.

26:07So like this, so many metaphors are given for different roles. So don't take it literally. Yes, that's exactly it. But how to understand them? Because it's like 20? It's described, the meaning of them is there in the Kadruma-kalpataru. I did not see. Read it again, very carefully. Srila Bhakti Naitaku explains precisely each one of the roles, what it means practically.

26:35Srila Gurudev, thank you so much. So I have a question regarding the beautiful class that you gave about Rasa Katha in the course of Sri Manah Shiksha, which was about the Manjari Bhav. So, the beautiful point that actually this Thai Bhav is always to Krishna and so from that comes the Surid Bhav, the Surid Bhav because the Surid Rati, yeah, Surid Rati.

27:06Yes, the Krishna Rati is the Mool, that means the root of Surid Rati. Krishna Rati is the mula of Surya Rati. So, because the gopis, they make groups according to which quantity they have of Gritasneha and... That means Sajjatiya Vasana. Surya Bhav, Surya Rati comes from the Sajjatiya Vasana. Those who have the same samskars, they naturally become friends. And that's the principle in this world.

27:36Yes, so my question was, I heard one time a beautiful pastime from you, that when the gopis, they realized that they were going to be married with other gopis, then they all went to the same place to give up their bodies, and in that they wanted to commit suicide by drowning in Kali Arad, in Kali Arad, yeah, so if I understood correctly in that point of the lila, they realized that, oh, also you came for the same reason, and in that point, these groups came out. So I wanted to ask about this, if it's correct, and in which way they could understand which type of love they have for Krishna, because everyone was there, also the gopis of Chandravali and different types of prema for Krishna, way of service. And then also another question about, not really related, but from the same class, that we were speaking about, we were listening about the Gona Rati.

28:35so one of them is Bibhats, so we heard the explanation that the Gona Rathis when they go away they live a samskara so we have the example of Madhu Mangal that he's always in Asya Ras, always relishing Asya Ras so even when it goes away he still have in his character this samskara so how does the Bibhatsa Ras leave a samskara so if there is an example of how So it's happening. Thank you.

29:07So the question, how do they know who to be friends with? How do you know who to be friends with?

29:28This is natural. You have your group of friends. You have your group of friends. And there's people that you don't like and you don't associate with. So that happens in the course of life.

29:42дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, this is happening throughout the whole life. All the gopi, all the gopi, they live in a village, they know, everyone knows each other. They know each other, but that was the day when they came together. But that was the day when they came together. So, of course, a person in this world finds a group of associates according to their karma. So, this is done by Mahamaya, Mahamaya. So, in this spiritual world, the living entities find a group of friends according to their karma. That is done by Mahamaya. So, in this spiritual world, these people find their group of friends according to their karma.

30:13Mahamaya, but by Yogamaya.

30:15В духовном мире спутники Кришны, они соответствуют с кармой Майя, Yogamaya, все устраивает, то есть Yogamaya, так это

30:27могут находиться и сешать, она могут делать невозможное возможности,

30:31но они все хранили тайну в сердце, что они влюблены в Кришну,

30:40So when they looked in each other's eyes at that moment, and they realized, oh, you also came to kill yourself, because you don't want to be married to anyone else,

30:47дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat you also told us to be able to life, because you are going to make a great relief for everyone, because the pressure of haling their feelings completely from everyone,

30:59дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt was just released, and there was a great relief, so there was a great relief, so there was something to talk to each other like this.

31:10Khrashtarati, the suridrati was manifest, and there were, they held hands, Radharani held hands with her sakis, and Chandrabli held hands with her sakis, and there, we will all, we are all sakis forever, and today we will give up our life together, we do everything together, we will drown together, and we will be together in our next life also, like this, Radharani made this vow, so to be a sakhi, It's not like a fair weather friend, you know, fair weather friend, means who's your weather when your friend when the weather is good, but if the weather is bad, then it's not your friend, the friends that can come and go, to be a saki is not like that, to be a saki in branch means to be saki forever, lifetime after lifetime, though they feel they're ordinary human beings, they feel that they're

32:08And they feel like friendship, even time cannot break it.

32:13дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd they feel like their friendship, even time cannot break it.

32:19So that's the first question.

32:19дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo that's the first question.

32:20Then about bivants.

32:25About bivarts.

32:26So, bivarts will, because it's secondary, so it will leave the San-skhar. That doesn't mean that it always feels... You're not experiencing all your San-skhar all the time.

32:38дорожка перевода · текст английскийYou're not feeling all your San-skhar you all the time.

32:41It needs, let's say, in a previous life,

32:46Например, in a previous life, you got attacked by a dog,

32:49a dog, so now in this life, in this life, if you see a dog, even a small pow wow, a chihuahua, then, even though you can kill this dog with one hand,

33:03дорожка перевода · текст английскийbut somehow in this life,

33:05you have some fear, it's irrational, why?

33:08дорожка перевода · текст английскийBecause of some samskāras from a previous life. It means that you walk around every day, um...

33:17you believe that you stay but actually walk out of me every day.

33:22дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd it means that in certain situations where that samskāra has a tendency to have a particular reaction.

33:34It doesn't mean that that's the defining characteristic of us, you are

33:38дорожка перевода · текст английскийI gave an example of Madhu-manda, because it's very clear, but something like Bibhatsa is not the defining characteristics, but now you should also understand that in Madhurya-rasa you are thinking disgusted, you think of things that disgusted you, and then you think how can this be a part of Madhurya-rasa, so because you are bringing a material concept, but you are bringing a material concept, Jiva Goswami describes how

34:06Rasa-nāma-samūha iti rasa, in the rasa lila, rasa lila means rasa-nāma-samūhat, there's an aggregation of all rasas, so where is this discussed?

34:17А где там что-то противное или отвратительное?

34:20In rasa lila? In rasa lila.

34:23
So, when Krishna enters into a kunj with Radhika, in that kunj, there's a beautiful bunch of the sthalaka-nalinī, sthalaka-nalinī-yuktaṁ garhita-kānaneti,
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34:38beautiful golden land lotuses, there's such a thing that's called the golden land lotus, golden land lotus, and when Krishna sees the beautiful golden body of Srimati Radharani, then Bibhatsa,

34:58дорожка перевода · текст английскийif he becomes disgusted seeing the golden land lotus, because she's so beautiful, like that, so you're asking how is Bibhatsa there? In rasa lila, like this, it's not something negative, that we would associate with something negative. We don't use it to combine it here.

35:22We have to avoid

35:41дорожка перевода · текст английскийJust consider, it often happens that great Rasika Vaishnavas, they are hidden. If it wasn't for the mercy of my Gurudev making relationships for many years with Sachinanada Bhaktivinoda Thakura, such a personality would be hidden from all of you. You could come to Vrindavan every year, and he would be somewhere here and there, speaking,

36:13kīrtana, dāma-gīta... Kīrtana, dāma-gīta, kīrtana...

36:31Kīrtana, kīrtana, kīrtana, braja-gīta.

36:33Kīrtana, kīrtana...

36:40Always. But very often those jewels are hidden. Why?

36:45
Dūrapādapa-ṭāpasa, saiva-vaikuṇṭha-maṇḍitam, yatropagīyate nityam, taṁ deva-deva-janārdanam. Persons whose austerity, persons who are willing to undergo difficulty, suffering, and inconvenience in order to get sādhu-saṅga, and those who don't have a history of surrender and sacrifice in this life,
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37:10Kīrtana.

37:11дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's very difficult for them to associate with pure devotees, to get the chance to associate with pure devotees. It's very difficult.

37:20By their sukṛti. By their sukṛti, their piety. They cannot afford it.

37:31So, you are all very lucky.

37:37In the future, your grandchildren, they will not believe.

37:43kīrtana... ... lladur cantipan klasskara epidemic, rozsenta, gaikan dis, vaj примерно doeden.

38:02esperusen si nadu bhajanak Standards, apte'ga, it's just, pangai yipunelИk

38:07eiamentosi. Dat is Judith a oursindi m Wish Blessed, Bhajanak obid Make

38:13thirtys스타 наката akrat, darshan kasih langžノ upon tayquLAVARA ala

37:51дорожка перевода · текст английский여러분들 söyle to studentmême.

38:15дорожка перевода · текст английскийUtti-pratyukti, Avradha Krishna is like Dhvani-kavya, Chitra-kavya, these points, these are very rare, beautiful and subtle points; did you hear it yesterday? What is Chitra-kavya?

38:43No, no, it's action? She's saying it's action. No. Okay, so you are here and you're hearing, but not...

38:54Вы здесь слушаете, но не понимаете. Anyway, I'm just giving this as an example.

39:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийI just give it like an example. Even if you are not understanding, which in many cases you are not understanding, but Please come, sit and listen, and just be touched by the air, and it will awaken your realization gradually of Atma-sukh.

39:22Even if you don't realize today, if you go on chanting, only the harikatha is like a mantra; when you receive a mantra, you don't realize it.

39:32дорожка перевода · текст английскийLater, after chanting a lot, you can realize. So Harikatha is also like that. You may not realize it there and then, but once you have heard, then the potential is there, that the meaning will come as a sphurti, a vision in the mind.