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Значение садханы, общения с садху и роль святых мест в практике преданного служения

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Даёт ли оставление тела в святой дхаме освобождение или высшую расу автоматически?

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0:11Writing in Liğ especially peace

1:47Passes away in L study

1:48Can't very easily obtain liberation However, we don't want liberation

2:04Terrific presence Srimadhu, Golub Braindavan is beyond the stage of liberation. Actually, no one can go there just by dying. Otherwise, if you were a sadhana to attain CT, then it would be among the angers of bhakti.

2:31дорожка перевода · текст английскийFor example, Srila Sanatana Goswami died, because he had a disease of the skin, and Mahaprabhu used to embrace him, and the blood and pass from his body would go on Mahaprabhu, so he wanted to give up this body, and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said, oh, you cannot attain prema by dying in the dhamma.

3:21If you could attain prema just by dying, then I would kill myself thousands of times.

3:34Later when Siddharaguna Das Goswami came to Braja, he also thought, I will jump from the top of Govardhan here, and Govardhan will give me mercy, but Siddharaguna Das Goswami taught him out of this, and related to him that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu taught him the same thing, don't give up your life, you have to do sadhana, attain bhava, and then attain prema.

4:17If you are interested in any free gifts, if you just go to this place, then you get that, if you just wear this kabata, or this precious stone, then you get this effect and that effect, this is all not interested.

4:49Interesting for anyone in the path of pure bhakti. We are not interested only in how the ecstatic emotions of the eternal associates of Sri Krishna can manifest in our consciousness.

5:20дорожка перевода · текст английскийWe are not interested only in how the ecstatic emotions of the eternal associates of Sri Krishna can manifest in our consciousness.

5:29Down, down. Mainly hear about the horizon activities and different holy places.

5:52For example, Umba Mela, take bath in the confluence of Karanva and Jamuna, the time of the morning Amabasya, the Amrita of Heaven will come down, they will become immortal and be liberated. So, actually, people who drink Amrita of Heaven become lusty, they become without death, for the period of duration, the duration period,

6:41a one-manman time, which is about 14 days of the Brahma, long time, but it's not immortal, all these things in Shastra about going to places and doing this and that, this is Loksangarha, to collect the attention among general people.

7:28Bring them to the holy place. Because when they come, then they can get sadhu sangha. So when you read all of these things, actually the dhvani, the implication is actually sadhu sangha, sadhu sangha, sarva shastrikhoi, the scriptures are speaking about sadhu sangha, actually.

7:54дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd in sadhu sangha, then the amrita is the harikata, abakatamrita amtapta jiva nama, so don't look for cheap fixes, how to get this and that, only try to do sadhana to get nitya-sidha bhaja,

8:29He is about the bath, want to please Krishna! Not to thinking how to get out of jail for free.

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9:20Abena, ab

10:01дорожка перевода · текст английскийSadhu means who has relation with the Sadh, the eternal absolute truth. Yes. And Sadhu means Sadanauti Sadhahyati itisadhu, who is himself practicing genuine Sadhana, and who

10:25Sadhu is adjusting and refining the behavior and the conception of others so that they may also be caused to do pure sadhana is a sadhu.

10:45санскрит в речиAdha, voh, rita, ham, mayam, sadhu, nam, rita, ham, tahan, Srila Sri Krishna himself has said, and a sadhu is my heart.

11:04дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo these are different definitions of what it means to be a sadhu.

11:14Now, some persons often wonder about, well, what about audio recordings, video recordings, books, and all of these things.

11:28So, what we receive from a sadhu is bhakti-shakti. That is the essence of some vith and hadini.

11:51дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, this bhakti shakti is carried in the vehicle of the heart of the sun. It can be transferred from one heart to another heart. It cannot be transferred to some computer memory.

12:24Odiotape, Odiotape

12:30Bhakti Shakti is aprapita pran Supernatural pran These machines have no pran They are not breathing They are not breathing How will they transfer Bhakti Shakti?

12:49So

12:59Black like this

13:13These black boxes will cheat you Never trust anyone who is black And he said, I don't want to have any relationship with this black person So, what a sadhu is, and sadhu sanga means to be in the association of them Especially to hear In the excellent association of the sadhu Vantiratka, rasayana kata, then you will hear harikata, which is like a tonic for your ears and your heart.

14:30Mambabirya sambhidho, here sambhidho indicates that in the sound of this harikata, there is sambhidhjakti.

14:44So Krishna is not a tanmatra sense object.

14:50That can be revealed by your senses. Krishna is only revealed by his own Swarupa-shakta internal potency, so he is called Swayam Prakash, self-manifested. It's impossible to know anything about Krishna without without the Swayam-prakashita, the self-manifest nature of his own spiritual energy.

15:30So?

15:34This self-manifest energy is transferred through the medium of Harikata in the association of Sadhu, not in the association of a machine.

15:59дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf you have heard first, then later when you hear the recording, recording will stimulate your awareness of the samskaras that were made by hearing, especially if you have a very loving relationship of service with that sadhu and you hear the recording, it will stimulate your samskaras, the impressions that you have received.

16:49Shastra.

16:53So the same is true of Shastra, books. They have no independent power to bestow Bhakti.

17:07So this is the book is symbolic recording of the qatar and the audio or video is the is also symbolic recording. The video is a symbolic recording of the guitar and the sound also is the imitation of the actual transcendental sound of the guitar, but not the transcendental sound itself.

17:51Just like a parrot may very perfectly imitate the voice of Srila Prabhupada, but then that parrot cannot give brain to anyone, because it's imitation. So the machine is such a perfect imitation that you can tell the difference, but it's still imitation.

18:24дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat's why you have to know that the word bhagavad means is a slash. When you see the word bhagavad, it is a slash. That means two words have embraced each other and become one.

18:45So the word bhagavad means the book bhagavad and the person bhagavad also.

18:59So the book Bhagavat, without the person Bhagavat has, does not have independent power to bestow prayer.

19:14Because bhakti comes from the solubh shakti, bhakti shakti.

19:24So books, tapes, recordings, everything, they are not useless, they are very useful for us.

19:32дорожка перевода · текст английскийBecause they stimulate the samskars we have received in sadhu sangha, but independently of sadhu sangha, from these we can get information but not realisation. And the two together, associations and books and recordings are complemented.

20:08дорожка перевода · текст английскийAnd then we can add one other nuance to this subject. If someone already has this bhakti-shakti in the heart, then they will experience the books, the writings or the recordings directly as that sadhu.

20:38In other words, if you have no bhakti in your heart, you will not experience that bhagavatam is the sirup of Krishna, but if you already have bhakti in your heart, then when you read bhagavatam, then you will directly experience that you are with Krishna.

21:04So then those persons was like, oh, Srimad Bhagavatam is directly Krishna himself.

21:12Yes, to him. But not to you. So then Bhagavat, the two, has to be taken as book and person together.

21:23Do you go?

21:26There are two aspects of Bhagavad, books of Bhagavad and have God Bhagavat.

21:55You can hear those recordings from Spain, you hear them live so when you hear the recordings, it will bring them some sort of stuff.

22:14дорожка перевода · текст английскийThere are the faces from the festival of Madhava, that you can say.

22:22The essence is that Nama has Vastusha. So Nama will have an effect even on those who have no knowledge or understanding of anything. And will destroy not only Pappa, but Pappa Beats, the seeds, the samskaras, the impressions, the tendency to perform activities which are averse to Krishna's service.

22:57дорожка перевода · текст английскийForgans, totsind 7-9-snika, 있으면, nahabhasa, tak make 7-8, siri tryta, kikramsa, jseenya,

23:02And namabhas, will awaken also gradually realization of Krishna's airshvari and madhuriya, and gradually lead one, And then chuda-nam will come and bhaf. So the essence of the Ajama upakyan is that Rastuñi Shakti Jama-mi-na-hi-bu-ni-ma-ba-cha-dee, that the vastu shakti, the potency, which is inherent in a thing, does not depend on your intelligence.

23:48And also there is a very peculiar situation with Ajameel, and that is, when he was a young man, He was very well behaved and he was doing jackets. So there is no jacket that does not have the holy name in it somewhere. But he never got purified of his sins by that chanting. And when he became a scoundrel and sinful,

24:33Then when he chanted the holy name to call his son, he was purified by that. Why? Love for who? Naraya? Love for the son is not love, it's more illusion. Remember, we discussed it yesterday.

25:15One of the ten offenses, Dhamma, Bharata, Dhamma, Bhutani, Sarva, Shubbha, Kriyam, Samyam, Vrindavan, is to consider the whole chanting the only name to be equal to the performance of Dhamma, Bharata, Karmakanda, et cetera. So what to say and speaking, thinking them equal, he was thinking that his Karmakanda yagyas were superior even.

25:50So because he chanted the name in the course of doing karmakanda-yagyas, he was subordinating bhakti-dehvi to karma, so it was nama-aparadha and it did not free him from sins.

26:17So he was dharmic, religious, but he was offensive. From the paramarctic, from the natural perspective, absolute perspective. And when he became adharmic, completely irreligious, then he was not subordinating naam to the karman.

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26:44So his chanting was nama-aparadha, and it purified him of all power, so there are many dimensions in this sense, what are the advantages of java-meditation, what are the advantages of java-meditation, chant with a very advanced vajtava, then a strong sanskara comes, how to chant properly,

27:39You can do experiment yourself, go to another temple, and just watch, and see who actually sits down and chants for more than 5 minutes, and you'll be so surprised, there are so many temples full of devotees,

28:07дорожка перевода · текст английскийVrindavan, abling hain.

28:08And hardly anyone is chanting.

28:14If they're chanting, they're walking around here and there and doing other things also.

28:26Because those persons, they did not have the samskara of what it means to do nama-jama. So if someone has some strong samskara, and they sit alone and chant, then very good.

28:53But most of those grew up before the stage of Nishtu who say, I am chatting, doing bhajan alone, they are not there sleeping, checking e-mail.

29:13So, at least join our programmers, I insist all devotees come together to develop good habits in relation to Harinam-jama.

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30:59Shukadeva Goswami has no frivolous nature at all, he has no concern, and with any fiction. And sometimes in Shastra there's an indirect description which is not exactly true in order to coerce or control the general people and make them do things which are good for them.

31:40
dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo ’tra paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ
vedyaṁ vāstavam atra vastu śivadaṁ tāpa-trayonmūlanam
śrīmad-bhāgavate mahā-muni-kṛte kiṁ vā parair īśvaraḥ
sadyo hṛdy avarudhyate ’tra kṛtibhiḥ śuśrūṣubhis tat-kṣaṇāt
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Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhāgavata Purāṇa propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are fully pure in heart. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. Such truth uproots the threefold miseries. This beautiful Bhāgavatam, compiled by the great sage Vyāsadeva [in his maturity], is sufficient in itself for God realization. What is the need of any other scripture? As soon as one attentively and submissively hears the message of Bhāgavatam, by this culture of knowledge the Supreme Lord is established within his heart.
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So, Srimad Bhagavatam begins, Dharamaparitakaitava attaktivisus, sorry, Dharamaparitakaitava utra, pharamoni mat saranam satama.

31:57That this Srimad Bhagavatam is for the Paramahamsas.

32:04It's actually for the Muttamahaparush, Great Liberated Souls.

32:11So you don't have to tell them some fairy stories to get them to behave properly, because they are already liberated. So the Srimad Bhagavatam is not like other Puranas which have something from Roka Sangra controlling the mentality of the masses. So some Puranas are for people in the mode of ignorance, six, and there are six for those in the mode of ignorance, six, and there are six for those in the mode of ignorance.

32:46Shri Matabha-gita, saith for those in the modern goodness, eighteen, purang-dita.

32:57But Shrimad Bhagavatam is for the Nirgurvaramara-hamsas. So there's no tricky psychological things in Shrimad Bhagavatam.

33:11So, we should take it to be factual.

33:16We heard how those who eat Kentucky fried chicken, then the Yamaraj will take them to kumbi paka and they themselves will be fried also.

33:26дорожка перевода · текст английскийWe heard how those who eat kumbi paka and they themselves will be fried also.

33:36So, it is mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatam in Krishna's lila, that once when Krishna was having the pastime of bringing the son of his guru back from Yamalok, Krishna went there to those hells and blew his conch, and just by the sound of Sikrishna's conch, all the cooking in Kumbi-pakar stopped.

34:18And the persons who were being cut by the sharp plants, ashipatra, leaves like swords. All those sharp plants became soft like flowers. Everyone in the hells was liberated from suffering and they attained forearm forms and went to Vaikuntha just by the sound of Krishna's God.

34:43дорожка перевода · текст английскийTraveler, as aÁway fonakrabhu, kristya, k rue sk Type Lesivars og verbiadavis over His invisible lands and es revhbuilt h 1956

34:50So I know one devotee was saying the once, is 10 m, is 23 habaupati. Рoshachachakmi e reconocer of the hellish planets is only imagination.

35:06дорожка перевода · текст английскийText Me questo b Opera Be,.

35:08Oka nicerata farta attra Krishna sam Deadha was f euro bersonote

35:17He also had been undergone modern Western scientific education and he was just removing their objections to encourage them to study Bhagavatam. It was meant for them, it was not actually his opinion.

35:42So we cannot take Shila Bhaktanora's statements in his introduction to Krishna Sumita at face value, because in the same introduction he said I request that the traditional Vaishnavas forgive me. I have said things in a particular way for a certain audience.

36:14There's also a devotee, from Switzerland, we won't say, but also tells the hellish planets in Bhagavatam are not real.

36:28Because it comes at the end of the fifth canton. And so some time in history some brothers just wrote an extra chapter about hells and just stuck it on its interpolation.

36:51But the problem with this explanation is this. Then the sixth kanto also becomes interpolation because the Yamadujas come to take Ajana.

37:10And the tenth kanto becomes the interpolation, because then someone has to make up the story about Krishna going to Yamalok and releasing all the persons from the various hellish sufferings.

37:29So we should take it literally. And that is also exactly, practically exactly the same. It is written by the Christian saints. If you read Dante's Inferno, it's Italian. You are Italian, you can read it.

37:54And he has described seven levels of hell, each one becoming worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and he has written it on the basis of the realizations of Saint Bernard in the 11th century and then of course then there's a purgatory in which persons get purified of lesser faults Kirtan.

38:27But not in an extremely excruciating way like in the hell.

38:35So also above the earth there are the seven planetary systems up to Brahmaluk and above there There is Buva and Suwa, two planetary systems. Then there are six planetary systems above that. All the Rishis there, they're doing Tapasya.

39:02They're not fully liberated yet. But they're doing austerities, Tapasya and Yagyas for their purgatory, to be purged of their last contamination, so that they can transcend the world.

39:29So the Christian conceptions of different levels of hell and different levels of purgatory also are confirmed by the Srimad Bhagavad.

39:45So some saints in their meditation they have seen these places. And that's why they take it very seriously.

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39:56Поэтому очень серьезно они к этому Раман состоит из двух частей Касается тема сакшат-даршана В Мадуре Кадамбине описывается тема аппарата И Вишан Чикаратикаку говорит, что если живо-свободно Сед, живо достигла уровня получения сакшат-даршана То не может быть речь о том, что у нее есть какие-то анарки

40:47дорожка перевода · текст английскийtussinatna, sabata, siksha, artha, siksha, dadha, kirtan, sanatna, karadha, qita, kirtan, natta, kurasa, DAYAuthamrita, chaitanya, maharaj, yota, kirtan, shika, kirtan, nona, vantagem au siksha, kirtan, kunna-num, kirtan, darshan, tsisi kirtan, chatata, sahitana, yaauthu, kirtan, kirtan, puasa, piasa, kirtan, siksha, kirtan, darshan, darshan, yota, tai kirtan, kahantan, kirtan, kirtan, kaipan, kirtan, kirtan, darshan, kirtan, 8thana,

41:21My first question is about Sakshan Darshan. And there are two parts. First of all, in Madhuriya Karabiniš, when I showed the Chakorafet explaining, describing references, then he's saying that when a person receives Sakshan Darshan of the Lord, then it means that there are no signs of any anarchists. And there are examples of Chaitraketo Maharaj. And can you say the same about Drubo Maharaj Karda Mamuni?

41:53And the second part When there are prakatlila with the Lord, many Jiva's receive the darshan of the Lord, is it the same with them?

42:15Krishna is seen by the eyes of devotion So those who don't have devotion In this world that performs his prakatlila, they are not really seen

42:32дорожка перевода · текст английскийKamsi. Vrindavan, karmakaraj, Vrindavan, Rishnam, Karmakaraj, saw it in the karmakaraj, saw it in the karmakaraj. Karmakaraj does not see the sweetness of Sikry maintaining. Karmakaraj

42:45just not see the sweetness of Sikryshni, who sees the sweetness of Sri Krishna. So Krishna said this, that

42:49
nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ sarvasya
yoga-māyā-samāvṛtaḥ
mūḍho ’yaṁ nābhijānāti
loko mām ajam avyayam
I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I am unborn and infallible.
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na akaam prakasha srawa shahayorva mayasa mabhartha, I am not manifest to everybody. I am covered by my

43:05So, for those who have no devotion, someone who has no devotion cannot see Krishna outside of his Prakatlila. When he makes his Prakatlila, everyone can see him, but unless they have devotion, they cannot actually see him as he is.

43:39When I appear in the human form, those of mudha, the ignorant, foolish persons, they criticize me, they don't even recognize that she's good.

44:04
sthānābhilāṣī tapasi sthito ’haṁ
tvāṁ prāptavān deva-munīndra-guhyam
kācaṁ vicinvann api divya-ratnaṁ
svāmin kṛtārtho ’smi varaṁ na yāce
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“[When he was being blessed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Dhruva Mahārāja said:] ‘O my Lord, because I was seeking an opulent material position, I was performing severe types of penance and austerity. Now I have gotten You, who are very difficult for the great demigods, saintly persons and kings to attain. I was searching after a piece of glass, but instead I have found a most valuable jewel. Therefore I am so satisfied that I do not wish to ask any benediction from You.’
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So, in the case of Dhruva Maharaj, he said, when he saw the Lord, he said, Swamim, kirtatosmi, bhara-bhanajate, now I have seen you, I am not, I don't want to ask for anything, I am fully satisfied.

44:25So, he was completely stupid. In the case of Chaituketu Maharaj, someone can help us attract darshan in the stage of Mahav,

44:50In some of Samyam, Narvikyammanubhagata, Krishna-sakshat-kritto-yogya, sadhaka-parakirtida, Krishna-sakshat-kritto-yogya, he's yogya, he has eligibility for sakshat, perception of supremehood, Narvikyammanubhagata, he has some, sometimes it happens, for example, Cardinal Muni, he was in the heavenly planets,

45:46дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo there, when the Supreme Lord comes, it is not like the same as here on this earth, in the sense that the Supreme Lord manifests only in His scheduled incarnations on earth, on the planets He regularly comes, like a Baman Mahara, Baman Day,

46:25Shilabamadev, he'll come every day to accept the puja of Indra, because he's Indra's younger brother, and Indra will do puja, and he'll come on Guruda, but he's not so interested, he doesn't even get off to Guruda, he's just waiting for the puja to be finished at that time, many devotees see him, so it's in that category of being like a brakatlila.

47:04So they are not free from anartas, it's just that he comes a lot in the heavenly place and does so many things. So they can still have anartas, I'm being illusion. You know, five incarnations were involved in the churning of the ocean of milk and all the demigods were there and all the demons were there.

47:33Kauruma was underneath the mountain, and another form of Supreme Lord was on top of the mountain. Ajit was helping the Devotas to holding Basuki's tail and pulling. Mohini Murti came to distribute the nectar and kill the rabbi. Sorry, she came and Ajit killed Radha with his chakra.

48:02And then in the end, it happened just a few days ago, there was a festival, Danteras, that's the appearance day of Danvantari, another incarnation of the Lord Danvantari came, so five incarnations were involved, but practically everyone was in mind.

48:25The demons were in Tamas and Rajas and the Devi gods were mainly covered by sattva.

48:37So these are some of the considerations in terms of the effects of the Sakshad Darshan.

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