англ. название записи: Sri Prem Prayojan - 2019-10-20 - Istagosthi
0:10Is 4-х лекций, is 4-х пунктов. Если физическое тело подвержено физическим законам зрелости от рождения к старости, то метафизические законы души, видимо, тоже имеет роль душа, таким образом делая опыт зрее и неизбежно продвигается и всё-таки выйдет рано или поздно в трансцензентный мир.
1:00дорожка перевода · текст английскийIf it is so, then why almost all spiritual schools are ready for students to be faster, only to avoid suffering, or is there another meaning? And when there is a big change in life, what is happening with the karmic power of the soul?
1:26There are a few parts of the question. First of all, if the physical body is a subject to the laws of nature, physical. Yes, you.
1:49So if the physical body is the subject to the laws of nature, physical laws, and it's kind of growing up, can you say that the soul is also being matured? Is it also growing in a spiritual sense, the soul? And this is the first part. Then, if all the souls are destined to eventually get to the spiritual platform, why do all the bulls trying to make their disciples move very fast on the spiritual journey?
2:27If, you know, they can take their own pace, sort of. Is it just to help them avoid suffering, or why everybody is saying that you should develop in a window? Very fast way. And the third question?
2:46So, so, so, so when there is a pro-light, the destruction of the universe, what happens with the karma baggage of each soul?
3:02So, the first question is about is the soul growing?
3:18дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo, the soul is avikari. That means he is not transformed in the body. All the transformations are going on only in the gross and total body. So, person is following dharma.
3:54If a person is like a sutra, low class in one life, and he does his duty, then in the next life he may become a Vaisha or a Katriya, slowly, then he may take birth as a Brahmin, and then the Brahmin is very much insufferable.
and then it is said Satvam yad brahma darshanam. When Satvam becomes very prominent in the consciousness then you can realize Brahman.
4:43Realization of Brahman is not transcendental in Satvam.
4:52дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt is not that Brahman is of Sattva-guna, it is not that Brahman is of Sattva-guna, it is not that Brahman is of Sattva-guna, but Sattva-guna being very clear, like a window, allows the light of Brahman to shine onto the citta and be experienced by the soul.
5:09Sattva-guna, podobno oknu, escvозь которого свет Brahmana может светить и отразиться на афите.
5:16So, if the soul himself is not changing, only his coverings are going from being completely dark to being opaque, to being clear, and then when they're clear, he can see the Brahman and understand that he's not a material being.
5:48In this way, it is not exactly that the soul itself is evolving or changing, only if he's being religious over several lifetimes, his consciousness is becoming more and more clear, bringing him to the point of understanding I'm not this point.
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6:17Now, if along the way he has the association of saints, those saints give a blessing and by their blessing samasynthesis are made in the citta.
6:34дорожка перевода · текст английскийabhasa,EDe, Kut resourceful deine liga, sanga, subscribe,politik, siinoclbonati,休 Bombarabhu yabas,
6:43inactive and quality less staying.
6:50дорожка перевода · текст английскийAn asthaka that Knotisia can become a spiritual branch for diocese to be the liliced bodhisattva to mails.
7:06samskaras of gyan, which are sattvic, make you aspire for a spirituality which has no qualities and no activities.
7:22So then you just want to be peaceful, and you want to be alone and not deal with anyone, and be silent, and basically just disappear.
7:37But when we associate with saints, they give us another samskara, that we want to be active in service to a personal speech of God.
7:47дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut when we associate with saints, they give us another samskara, that we want to be active in service to a personal speech of God.
7:58And then the bhakti-shakti comes and nourishes that soul.
8:07So this also cannot exactly be called a transformation like a growth because the bhakti-shakti which is coming is already perfect.
8:25It's just a question of the degree to which that shakti is present in you.
8:34So that's why sadhana is the definition of sadhana, kirti sadhya, bhavata, sadhya, bhavata, sadhana, abida, you're using this body, using these senses in service, and by the proximity, by the closeness to the transcendental substances like the holy name, like the deity and mahaprasada, then there's a great a gradual transference of the spiritual energy of bhakti, which is already perfect.
9:23So, in the second part of the verse, the definition of sadhana, The practice of bhakti doesn't produce something new. It just makes the eternally perfect energy of love appear in your heart.
9:53So that's also a little bit different to the physical growth of a person because a child does not receive a small percentage of adulthood, perfected adulthood. to it. And then he receives that more and more. It's really in gradual steps.
10:22But Bhakti Shakti is an eternally existing energy of God, and it comes to us, but it just comes to us in degrees.
10:39So, it is an evolution of sorts, it's an evolution of our experience, but we are not undergoing new transformation.
10:48Это эволюция наших мыслей, это эволюция нашего опыта, но сами по себе мы не подвергаемся никаким трансформациям. Soul is eternal, потому что душа вечна, а вечные вещи не меняются.
11:01The soul can be under the control of Maya, the mature energy, or under control of the bhakti, the spiritual energy.
11:12So it's just a question of our direction. Our attention is facing the material energy, or our attention is turned towards the spiritual energy.
11:29So in a figurative way we can say the soul is undergoing some growth or evolution, in a figurative way, but not actually in a metaphysical way.
11:45Now, question. Why do the scriptures and the acharyas who are representing the scriptures and the acharyas and the scriptures who are representing the desire of Krishna, why are they all pushing and saying you should go through this process more quickly?
12:08дорожка перевода · текст английскийmishyaa, kata, bari. How to express Pisaajaya, kata, pisanyeajaya, kata, salamai Krišna, krišnye? Why people push people to move quickly up to thisata area?
12:19Because, first of all, it is possible to go very quickly.
12:25дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt can also express quickly and easy, and also painlessly.
12:35But our problem is we are very touched to our ego.
12:38дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut our problem is that we are very attached to our ego.
12:41He said that as easy as it is to close your eyes, as easy as it is to pluck a flower, that's how easy it is to just give up to people now.
12:51Just give it up.
12:53Just give it up.
12:59Shakshi, I'm Shakshi. All happiness and distress is in the mind. I'm not the mind, I'm Shakshi of the mind.
13:11So, Kattvanga Maharaj became perfect in only 24 minutes, so it's possible to progress very quickly, at least to the state of liberated state of consciousness, to progress in Raghunuga Bhakti, association with Raghunuga Bhakti, association with Raghunuga Bhakti, Raghunatha, bukakshini is necessary over some time.
13:44But it doesn't have to be difficult or painful.
13:51So all suffering and difficulties are actually in the mind.
13:58When we come off the mental platform, then there's no suffering or difficulty.
14:05дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut because the living entity is very attached to his mind, so he needs some encouragement, so he needs some encouragement, so the pushing is like that.
14:24The pushing, when Guru is pushing the disciple, he's not trying to give pain to the disciple, he's trying to help the disciple get free from the condition of giving pain to himself.
14:49Once one Rishi came into the court of a king And the king asked him, how can I attain liberation?
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15:07дорожка перевода · текст английскийRishyi upwardlyam row to control for even colon who sell on their palace, revenci 끝in tightly and helebenci網
15:13it suddenly out. like roya thawak said two你们 sides go, let me go, leave me alone, seревak well, let me remove, and leave me alone, O Pilar, set me free at once, Af Follow me 재미mmelغ
15:23дорожка перевода · текст английскийsikha, Nandaka reu, I can't take it anymore! I Operations that守 moj na mokou,
15:28Then the king understood, and the king understood, you are holding on, and then say, oh spiritual life is very difficult, so we have to hear it again and again, but we have to hear it again and again, and sometimes we put under some pressure, and so we break, and then we say, okay, I give up the secret.
16:05But one can go very, very slowly, but there's a chance if you go very, very slowly, that you can become deviant and become lost and then not end up going in the right direction.
16:16дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut then there is a danger, that if you will be moving very slowly, you will be able to move very slowly, then you will be able to move in the wrong direction.
16:23So Srila Prabhupada used to call this, Bhaktisthansa Thakur, aggressive grace.
16:29дорожка перевода · текст английскийSrila Prabhupada, Bhaktisthansa Thakur, called this aggressive grace.
16:34It's the grace, the mercy of Krishna coming through Bhuru, but it's extremely aggressive.
16:39дорожка перевода · текст английскийIt's the grace, the mercy of Krishna coming through Bhuru, but it's extremely aggressive.
16:43Actually it's only sweet. Kirti, but in the condition, say, it's perceived as being aggressive.
16:48На самом деле, это сладко, но вот в условленном состоянии, мы воспринимаем это как что-то такое агрессивное.
16:55Then afterwards, then when we become somewhat mature, then we'll look back and see, actually, it was very sweet.
17:02Но потом, когда мы достигаем более зрелого духовного состояния, мы оглядываемся и думаем, «О, это было очень сладко, на самом деле».
17:12So, that was the second question, then the third question. What happens to all the karma and the conditioning of the jiva at the time of the pralaya?
17:23Что происходит со всей кармой и обусловленностью дживы во время пралайи?
17:27So remember, so bhava's to Prabhupada today, that all the activities of the living entities and the fate of everyone in the universe is going on due to the samskara's impressions in the mahatatva. That means in the mahatattva of the universe and everything is going on in the universe by that and the portion of that mahatattva is in your subtle body as well so the two are working together and in this way everyone's karma is unfolding.
18:16So, at the time of the pralaya, then all the elements, the gross elements are dissolved into their subtle causes, and then the subtle causes, even the Mahatattva is dissolved into Prakriti.
18:52And then all the living beings enter into the body of Garbhodakshayi Vishnu if it's the destruction of the universe. Mahā-Viṣṇu, if it's the destruction of the totality of all the universes.
19:18So, and then, when the Supreme Lord wants to create again, and the universes come out, then those samskaras that were in the maha-tattva, They were kept in a potential state. Though the Jivas have been separated from their samskaras, and they're in a type of suspended animation, kind of liberative, but not.
19:48Then, when the creation takes place again, then those samskaras, impressions in the mahatattva, which were only potential, become manifest again. And then the whole world is manifested again on the basis of those samskaras.
20:03И когда Господь снова на сцене, тогда все эти самскары махататтвы соединяются в конце потенциала потенциала. И тогда Джива, разделенная потенциалом потенциала, также находится в каком-то роде на апарадхе, но в неинв... И тогда, когда дано время, все эти самскары, они даны из потенциала потенциала самскар, они находятся в...
20:38And the jiva becomes, by paramatma, becomes reconnected with that same samskara from before the pralaya.
20:57So pralaya is not anything.
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21:16And for the night and in the morning you check the pause button.
21:27And it is also another analogy. We can be compared to the state of shi-shukti, deep sleep.
21:40When you fall asleep, but first you dream.
21:47So your samskaras are still functioning.
21:51But when you go into deep sleep, then the mind becomes inactive.
22:00And that Jiva is in Shushupti in deep sleep separated from his samskara and it's also similar to a liberated experience.
22:07И эта Джива находится в шушупти, в глубоком сне, отделенная от своей самскары, и это также похоже на освобожденный опыт.
22:10And this it's not liberated, because it's temporary.
22:20And also because one two hundred fifty six portion of the mind remains active even in the state of deep sleep Which... sorry... remains active?
22:52And that collects the samskara of what it was like to be in deep sleep. So you wake up and say, oh, I had a great sleep, I don't remember anything.
23:01И эта самскара того, каково это было быть в глубоком сне. Так что вы просыпаетесь и говорите: «О, я отлично поспал, я ничего не помню».
23:12So that one 256 portion of the mind, which is still active, retains a memory or impression of being in the state where your consciousness had no object.
23:38So the time of the pralai is similar to the state of Shushupti. The Jiva is like in the state of Shushupti for the night of Lord Brahma.
23:59So, three questions answered. Is it clear?
24:11And our relationship with Guru during the time of Pralaya, what happens?
24:19Relation with Guru is eternal.
24:24Don't worry too much, Pralaya will not come. Even the next Satya Yuga will not come for another 428,000 years.
24:41And the Brahma of this universe, Brahma of this universe, he is actually, now he is 50 years old, so there is another 50 years of the life of Lord Brahma in the world.
25:01Our casks are determined by the body parts of Vishnu and we come to those body parts. But when we merge back again, when we merge to different parts and come from different parts again, how does our cast change to different parts? Do you think that yourself is a perfect place?
25:36дорожка перевода · текст английскийWe know that various castes of the society, in presence of the Raman and Kshatri are related to the which side of the God and the Vishnu are presented. And therefore when there are in pralai, they return to the volume back even in these parts. Or what happens if it happens?
25:56In the Rig Veda, in the Purushasuttara, there's a description of how the different castes, the Brahmins, Kattriyavashas and Sultvas, are different parts of the body of the Viratrupa, the universal form.
26:29So this Viratrupa is not exactly real in that sense, it's a metaphorical description, otherwise, if you are Sudra, how will you meet a Brahmana? Because you are on the feet and the Brahman's on the head, very far away, then you would be on one side of the universe, So, it's a way of, also, the Viratrupa is not actually a transcendental form of God, it's Upadhi.
27:19So, the Viratrupa is there for the yogis in the beginning of yoga, that they can become free from, Dualistic vision, to see that everything exists within God, not directly God's rupa, but within His Viratrupa, within His universal form.
27:38Viratrupa, на самом деле, для того, чтобы помочь йогам, осознать, что все является частью Господа, чтобы избавиться от dualistic восприятия всего.
27:48So when the living entities enter into the body of Mahavishnu, it's not that if the Brahman is going his head and the Subha is going his head, because the body of Mahavishnu is transcendental and the Virat Rupa is an Upadi, a material form.
28:24So it doesn't correspond like that.
28:30When during the pralaya, then all the souls are equal.
28:35So their caste distinctions don't exist after the, actually they just don't, for the souls they don't exist at any time, ever.
28:43Yes, на самом деле, вообще для душ не существует никаких касковых различий никогда.
28:48But at the time of the pride, they don't even have any type of material manifestation.
28:54дорожка перевода · текст английскийBut at the time of the pride, they don't even have any type of material manifestation.
28:57So even now there are no caste distinctions between souls.
29:01То есть даже сейчас, в любом момент времени, нет никаких различий, асфортов между душами.
29:06But as long as that soul is in Maya and has ego, then he experiences himself to be located in a particular aspect of the universal form, and so, because it's best for everyone to behave according to their nature, then they should follow their dharma.
29:47So, now it's very popular, freedom! Freedom! Freedom! We want freedom! I am being oppressed!
29:56дорожка перевода · текст английскийMea potevliya, why am I forced to eat with my mouth? Why am I forced to eat with my mouth?
30:03I want freedom to be able to eat with my ears.
30:06дорожка перевода · текст английскийI want freedom to be able to eat with my ears.
30:08Don't oppress me if I want to put the food in my ears.
30:11дорожка перевода · текст английскийNe potevliya me, if I want to put the food in my ears. Ne potevliya me, if I want to put the food in my ears.
30:17So the concept of absolute freedom is like this foolish.
30:21Концепция абсолютной свободы, она безрассудна.
30:28When the Supreme Lord creates the world, He is the one that knows the Artha, that means the purpose of every single item within the world.
30:44дорожка перевода · текст английскийThat is called the teleological course. What is each thing, what is it for?
30:56So, just like if you breathe through your mouth, if you breathe through your mouth, you become sick, because your nose was designed for breathing, so please, everyone, please breathe through your nose, so every single part of the world, every single part of everything has its mouth, a natural function, and when it's utilized in that way, then it functions according to its optimum capacity.
31:46And when anything or anyone acts in a way which is contrary to its teleological purpose, to the purpose for which it is desired, then, or against which location it is in the universal body, then that person will undergo great suffering.
32:10И когда кто-то своими действиями противоречит своей теологической, теологической причине, то, или занимает какое-то другое место в Иератрубе, ну, то это приводит к страданиям.
32:25Now everything is a complete mess in society, people have lost the understanding of what, first of all, what the senses are for. Senses are for serving God.
32:46дорожка перевода · текст английскийThe senses are for the stimulation and gratification. People think that. People have forgotten what is the male role in nature and female role in nature. So they are suffering so much.
33:10They lost the conception, what is sex for?
33:18It is for producing the healthy progeny, offspring, who will also serve God.
33:28So when everything in nature has its purpose, and when someone becomes disconnected and loses that purpose, then the result is chaos and suffering.
33:49Hiru Al-ma-mizery.
33:51So, the description of the Universal Form in the Prusha-Suchta is to help everyone understand by my karma I have taken birth in a particular caste or particular gender or situation, and this purpose, I don't decide what it's purpose is. You cannot just decide one day, my hand will be my foot, and walk and I walk everywhere on my hands. It's already decided when you are born, which part of your body will do which function. So when you're born within the body of God, then it's decided what you will do. You don't choose. You look where you are and see what you need to do. And then it's called Dharva.
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35:05So, the Supreme Lord knows the conditioned souls have many worldly desires.
35:13So, it is said in Bhagavad-gita, at the beginning of the creation, the Supreme Lord sends forth the Vedic literatures and the process of Dharma and said to the living entities, follow this Dharma and be happy.
35:33дорожка перевода · текст английскийthrough de bahara.
35:35By this Dharma you can have family, you can have sex, you can make money, you can enjoy different things, you can go to have hidden planets, and in the cycle you can be liberated.
36:01So, Dharma is for the conditioned souls, it is a regulation of life, that they can fulfill their desires in such a way, that their life is not miserable, they can enjoy mature happiness and then give it up, and then transition. That is the path of worldly dharma.
36:27дорожка перевода · текст английскийSo even if the living entities want to eat meat, there's a dharmic way that they can do it, they can be fulfilled and then give it up.
36:53If someone wants to take intoxication, there's a dharmic way to get drunk. There's one type of yagya and you offer the alcohol, then you take it. There's one type of yagya and you offer the alcohol, then you take it. There's one type of yagya and you offer the alcohol, then you take it. So the Vedas are very kind, they understand.
37:18that the living beings have many desires and attachments, and give some process whereby you can slowly become free from them and be elevated, and give some process whereby you can slowly become free from them and be elevated, but that takes lifetimes, but that takes lifetimes, so in the end of Bhagavad-gita, Krishna said, Sarvamdha, Mamparacharya, give up all these dharas, and just Just do bhakti.
37:52By bhakti all your desires will also be fulfilled.
37:58And you very quickly give them up. But better just give up the desires from the beginning.
38:07And experience the joy of love for Krishna. That's the best.
38:14дорожка перевода · текст английскийAushina. Okay, one more question? Raise your hand, raise your hand.
38:27Narahatrukh. Right now, here's first, you said is aishvaya, feature. It is a shabda archa, like a deity, vigraha, like the deity you see in the temple, like that. Because in the conditioned state, when you see the deity, it is the root of Krishna, the form, but his qualities are not there, because he is not soft, he can be fragrant if you put the fragrance, but the stone, it doesn't have the qualities of Krishna. So the first thing is, nama manifests root, and that is called the shabda-archa-vigraha, the sound deity.
39:33дорожка перевода · текст английскийAishwarya is actually a quality of Krishna, so first it will only be a group Shabdarcha, even without the Aishwarya.
39:44But you will have a feeling of Aishwarya, because this god does appear.
39:52Then Krishna's gun, so the Aishwarya gun come first in Nishtha, and then in Ruchi the sweet guns will begin to come.
40:01Потом будут появляться агуны, качества Krishna, и первым из них появится качество Айшлави, и потом это ништра, а потом на стадии ручьи сладых появится
40:10Is it for everyone the same, or is it different? Is it different possibilities like Sathbhuj, or Yusinadi, or whatever? It depends. Yeah, try this question. What rupa is revealed? Like what rupa will appear? When rupa will appear? Will it be the same for everyone or sometimes four arm forms? Or six arm forms? Or an nisikadev? Or an nisikadev or an nisikadev So Lord Brahma, he said in the 3rd canto,
40:52Vrindavan, Vrindavan, Vrindavan, vrindavan, Vrindavan, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Narasaa, Vrindavan, Sahaja, Vrindavan, Vrindavan, Vrindavan, Dattva soa, chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Paribhavi, Saragat, Jasa.
41:07Yadjadhyayaya means in whichever way you are meditating, Krishna manifest that same form.
41:20So, if your deksha-mantra is to Krishna in Vrindavan, and you have deity of Krishna Vrindavan, and every day you pray in Jairadhamadha, Vapunja Vihari, then that root will appear. And if you are doing namaste, narasimha, nama-dvita, nama-dvita, nama-dvita, nama-dvita, nama-dva, singa-dana, then tatrupa, so it's yadhyaddiyo, taduragaya, vivaabayanti, everything is according to how you are meditating, Krishna reciprocates.
42:02When we come in the form of the nature, Kirtanava. And if we are right, then in the form we are not giving Nishinga Mantra and Nishinga Gayatri or Rama Mantra.
42:16Or Rama Mantra and Rama Gaitri. In our Sambradaya, Gopal Mantra and Kama Gaitri. In our Sambradaya, Gopal Mantra and Kama Gaitri.
42:23So three times a day you are meditating on this group, the Shukha.
42:26дорожка перевода · текст английскийYou should eat three times a day.
42:27Медитируйте на эту форму Krishna, и она должна явиться.
